From: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>
To: "Ricardo Villalba" <ricardo@lab.cricyt.edu.ar>
Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
Date: Thu Jul 21 15:43:01 2005
Cc: "Jonathan Overpeck" <jto@u.arizona.edu>, <drdendro@ldgo.columbia.edu>, <eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no>, "Tim Osborn" <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>

   Ricardo
   Tim is contacting Henry now  - so forget Boreholes for time being
   cheers
   Keith
   At 15:23 21/07/2005, Ricardo Villalba wrote:

     Hi Keith and all,
     Following Peck's advise I will include for each reconstruction the observed
     record. Obviously, I have the Patagonian instrumental records, but I need
     from Ed the Tasmania and Hokitika (New Zealand) observed records.
     Sorry for my ignorance on borehole, but I am not familiar with Henry's work.
     If you send me his e-mail, I could ask him for the data and a line of text
     on borehole from the SH. Cheers,
     Ricardo
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: "Keith Briffa" <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>
     To: "Ricardo Villalba" <ricardo@lab.cricyt.edu.ar>; "Jonathan Overpeck"
     <jto@u.arizona.edu>
     Cc: <drdendro@ldgo.columbia.edu>; <eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no>
     Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:51 AM
     Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
     Hi Ricardo and all
     this all seems fine with me - the question of the temperature observations
     is a moot one - but some included seems a good idea  - 1 South American and
     1 New Zealand is fine  - length not as important as proximity to the
     records shown (but need to see what they l;look like).
     will wait on other numbers - Henry is best qualified to cite most
     appropriate SH borehole data and could supply a line of text . Ricardo can
     you ask him for these?
     best wishes
     Keith
     At 13:52 20/07/2005, Ricardo Villalba wrote:
     >Hi Keith, Ed, Peck, Eystein
     >
     >
     >
     >Regarding Peck's  suggestions,
     >
     >
     >1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact.
     >
     >
     >
     >Rio de Janeiro, starting in 1851, is the longest, homogeneous temperature
     >record from the Southern Hemisphere. In New Zealand and Australia,
     >temperature records start at the same time. We do not have any long record
     >for the 18th century, even the first half of the 19th century. The
     >hemispheric record from the Southern Hemisphere will be discussed in
     Chapter
     >2 and we do not have any additional information to provide.
     >
     >
     >2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed)
     >
     >
     >
     >Definitely!! I do not have the records here in Mendoza. Keith, do you have
     >access to these data? As soon as I receive the borehole records I will
     >incorporate them in the figures. I would appreciate receiving the key
     >references to properly cite the records.
     >
     >
     >3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty
     >please...) to draft the final figure so that it
     >matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is
     >this ok, and do you have the data to do the job.
     >If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send
     >upon request?
     >
     >
     >
     >At the time the figure is ready, I will send all the data to Keith and Tim
     >to draft the final figure, and the final text to incorporate in the FOD.
     >Cheers,
     >
     >Ricardo
     >
     >
     >
     >----- Original Message -----
     >From: "Jonathan Overpeck" <jto@u.arizona.edu>
     >To: "Ricardo Villalba" <ricardo@lab.cricyt.edu.ar>
     >Cc: "Keith Briffa" <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>; <drdendro@ldgo.columbia.edu>;
     >"Eystein Jansen" <eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no>
     >Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:55 PM
     >Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
     >
     >
     >Hi SH gang - Thanks for keeping things moving
     >Ricardo. Eystein and I just discussed this fig on
     >the phone and would like to suggest the following:
     >
     >1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact.
     >2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed)
     >3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty
     >please...) to draft the final figure so that it
     >matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is
     >this ok, and do you have the data to do the job.
     >If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send
     >upon request?
     >
     >Many thanks, Peck and Eystein
     >
     > >Dear Keith and Ed,
     > >
     > >Please, find attached the new version of the SH figure for the IPCC.  I
     >have
     > >now included the New Zealand record. All the records have been scaled to
     4
     > >C amplitude. Variability in the Tas record is reduced compared to New
     > >Zealand and Patagonian records. The reference lines is the mean used for
     >the
     > >calibration period in each record, 15 C for New Zealand, 14.95 C for
     > >Tasmania and 0 C for the Patagonian records (they show departures).
     Please,
     > >let me know if you want to introduce some changes in the figure. The
     > >opposite phase in the Patagonia-New Zealand records is so clear before
     >1850,
     > >which is consistent with our previous TPI. For instance, in the
     >instrumental
     > >record the 1971 and 1976 are the coolest summer in northern Patagonian
     > >during the past 70 years, but the warmest in New Zealand reconstruction!!
     > >This out of phase relationship between regions in the Southern Hemisphere
     > >points out to the difficulty of using few records to get a hemispheric
     > >average. Cheers,
     > >
     > >Ricardo
     > >
     > >----- Original Message -----
     > >From: "Jonathan Overpeck" <jto@u.arizona.edu>
     > >To: "edwardcook" <drdendro@ldeo.columbia.edu>
     > >Cc: "Keith Briffa" <>; "Ricardo Villalba" <ricardo@lab.cricyt.edu.ar>;
     > >"Eystein Jansen" <>
     > >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:09 PM
     > >Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
     > >
     > >
     > >Thanks Ed - Ricardo, can you get the data from Henry? What do you think,
     > >Keith?
     > >Best, Peck
     > >
     > >>Given the nature of the SH and what Ricardo put
     > >>together, I would keep the Australian and South
     > >>Aftrican borehole records separate. Henry
     > >>Pollack can provide them, I am sure. He gave an
     > >>excellent talk at a meeting in Canberra that I
     > >>recently participated in.
     > >>
     > >>Cheers,
     > >>
     > >>Ed
     > >>
     > >>P.S. Ricardo, here is the Oroko temperature reconstruction.
     > >>
     > >>JANUARY-MARCH TEMPERATURES RECONSTRUCTED FROM
     > >>OROKO SWAMP, NEW ZEALAND SILVER PINE TREE RINGS
     > >>BE ADVISED THAT THE DATA AFTER 1958 ARE INSTRUMENTAL
     > >>TEMPERATURES
     > >>   YEAR  TEMP C
     > >>    900  13.751
     > >>    901  14.461
     > >>    902  13.236
     > >>    903  13.331
     > >>    904  13.483
     > >>    905  13.632
     > >>    906  12.959
     > >>    907  13.628
     > >>    908  13.372
     > >>    909  12.868
     > >>    910  13.244
     > >>    911  13.793
     > >>    912  14.048
     > >>    913  14.444
     > >>    914  13.095
     > >>    915  14.036
     > >>    916  13.215
     > >>    917  13.698
     > >>    918  13.570
     > >>    919  13.665
     > >>    920  13.871
     > >>    921  13.966
     > >>    922  14.762
     > >>    923  14.325
     > >>    924  14.077
     > >>    925  14.713
     > >>    926  14.081
     > >>    927  14.218
     > >>    928  13.793
     > >>    929  14.151
     > >>    930  14.985
     > >>    931  13.599
     > >>    932  14.663
     > >>    933  14.110
     > >>    934  14.968
     > >>    935  14.391
     > >>    936  15.484
     > >>    937  15.554
     > >>    938  14.977
     > >>    939  15.303
     > >>    940  15.179
     > >>    941  15.591
     > >>    942  14.737
     > >>    943  14.007
     > >>    944  14.865
     > >>    945  14.449
     > >>    946  14.350
     > >>    947  15.096
     > >>    948  15.257
     > >>    949  15.789
     > >>    950  15.303
     > >>    951  15.513
     > >>    952  16.111
     > >>    953  15.723
     > >>    954  15.459
     > >>    955  14.015
     > >>    956  13.083
     > >>    957  13.850
     > >>    958  14.069
     > >>    959  13.772
     > >>    960  14.873
     > >>    961  14.692
     > >>    962  14.923
     > >>    963  14.527
     > >>    964  15.034
     > >>    965  14.688
     > >>    966  14.486
     > >>    967  14.444
     > >>    968  14.436
     > >>    969  13.776
     > >>    970  13.809
     > >>    971  14.391
     > >>    972  13.487
     > >>    973  13.995
     > >>    974  14.061
     > >>    975  14.321
     > >>    976  14.882
     > >>    977  14.226
     > >>    978  14.977
     > >>    979  15.447
     > >>    980  14.424
     > >>    981  14.923
     > >>    982  14.180
     > >>    983  15.484
     > >>    984  13.487
     > >>    985  14.168
     > >>    986  14.176
     > >  >   987  15.699
     > >>    988  15.187
     > >>    989  16.305
     > >>    990  14.845
     > >>    991  14.647
     > >>    992  15.765
     > >>    993  14.754
     > >>    994  14.271
     > >>    995  13.623
     > >>    996  14.300
     > >>    997  13.937
     > >>    998  14.040
     > >>    999  14.011
     > >>   1000  12.976
     > >>   1001  13.904
     > >>   1002  13.500
     > >>   1003  13.586
     > >>   1004  14.090
     > >>   1005  13.809
     > >>   1006  13.413
     > >>   1007  13.318
     > >>   1008  13.892
     > >>   1009  14.151
     > >>   1010  14.391
     > >>   1011  13.793
     > >>   1012  14.626
     > >>   1013  13.755
     > >>   1014  13.838
     > >>   1015  13.017
     > >  >  1016  13.083
     > >>   1017  13.549
     > >>   1018  13.471
     > >>   1019  13.087
     > >>   1020  13.458
     > >>   1021  13.203
     > >>   1022  14.090
     > >>   1023  13.574
     > >>   1024  13.755
     > >>   1025  13.826
     > >>   1026  13.137
     > >>   1027  13.194
     > >>   1028  14.036
     > >>   1029  13.091
     > >>   1030  13.768
     > >>   1031  13.813
     > >>   1032  13.846
     > >>   1033  13.871
     > >>   1034  14.255
     > >>   1035  14.370
     > >>   1036  13.805
     > >>   1037  14.576
     > >>   1038  13.504
     > >>   1039  13.867
     > >>   1040  14.927
     > >>   1041  14.420
     > >>   1042  15.661
     > >>   1043  15.484
     > >>   1044  15.595
     > >>   1045  14.741
     > >>   1046  13.644
     > >>   1047  14.271
     > >>   1048  14.288
     > >>   1049  13.661
     > >>   1050  13.665
     > >>   1051  13.298
     > >>   1052  14.003
     > >>   1053  13.826
     > >>   1054  13.788
     > >>   1055  13.768
     > >>   1056  12.976
     > >>   1057  13.397
     > >>   1058  13.529
     > >>   1059  13.549
     > >>   1060  13.846
     > >>   1061  14.032
     > >>   1062  14.820
     > >>   1063  13.962
     > >>   1064  14.279
     > >>   1065  14.151
     > >>   1066  14.358
     > >>   1067  14.131
     > >>   1068  13.652
     > >>   1069  13.941
     > >>   1070  14.007
     > >>   1071  14.403
     > >>   1072  13.764
     > >>   1073  13.982
     > >>   1074  13.846
     > >>   1075  13.830
     > >>   1076  13.450
     > >>   1077  13.632
     > >>   1078  13.265
     > >>   1079  13.331
     > >>   1080  14.267
     > >>   1081  13.644
     > >>   1082  13.549
     > >>   1083  13.557
     > >>   1084  13.549
     > >>   1085  14.725
     > >>   1086  13.479
     > >>   1087  12.848
     > >>   1088  12.559
     > >>   1089  12.926
     > >>   1090  13.793
     > >>   1091  14.387
     > >>   1092  14.531
     > >>   1093  14.114
     > >>   1094  14.754
     > >>   1095  14.688
     > >>   1096  14.845
     > >>   1097  14.729
     > >>   1098  15.059
     > >>   1099  15.059
     > >>   1100  15.055
     > >>   1101  16.057
     > >>   1102  15.208
     > >>   1103  15.492
     > >>   1104  14.519
     > >>   1105  14.741
     > >>   1106  14.151
     > >>   1107  15.005
     > >>   1108  13.640
     > >>   1109  13.652
     > >>   1110  13.566
     > >>   1111  13.978
     > >>   1112  14.424
     > >>   1113  14.180
     > >>   1114  14.931
     > >>   1115  14.601
     > >>   1116  14.403
     > >>   1117  14.391
     > >>   1118  14.981
     > >>   1119  15.125
     > >>   1120  13.817
     > >>   1121  12.897
     > >>   1122  13.863
     > >>   1123  14.271
     > >>   1124  14.857
     > >>   1125  14.882
     > >>   1126  14.762
     > >>   1127  14.548
     > >>   1128  14.403
     > >>   1129  14.667
     > >>   1130  14.572
     > >>   1131  14.057
     > >>   1132  14.556
     > >>   1133  15.018
     > >>   1134  13.892
     > >>   1135  13.995
     > >>   1136  13.982
     > >>   1137  14.853
     > >>   1138  14.779
     > >>   1139  15.129
     > >>   1140  15.117
     > >>   1141  14.849
     > >>   1142  15.228
     > >>   1143  15.216
     > >>   1144  15.030
     > >>   1145  14.428
     > >>   1146  15.063
     > >>   1147  15.216
     > >>   1148  15.043
     > >>   1149  15.034
     > >>   1150  14.370
     > >>   1151  15.096
     > >>   1152  15.410
     > >>   1153  15.719
     > >>   1154  16.577
     > >>   1155  15.769
     > >>   1156  15.364
     > >>   1157  15.855
     > >>   1158  15.422
     > >>   1159  14.515
     > >>   1160  15.810
     > >>   1161  15.628
     > >>   1162  15.402
     > >>   1163  15.092
     > >>   1164  15.298
     > >>   1165  14.865
     > >>   1166  14.882
     > >>   1167  15.274
     > >>   1168  14.605
     > >>   1169  14.746
     > >>   1170  15.472
     > >>   1171  15.509
     > >>   1172  15.018
     > >>   1173  15.369
     > >>   1174  15.084
     > >>   1175  15.855
     > >>   1176  14.795
     > >>   1177  15.571
     > >>   1178  14.255
     > >>   1179  14.510
     > >>   1180  14.865
     > >>   1181  14.036
     > >>   1182  14.688
     > >>   1183  14.713
     > >>   1184  14.519
     > >>   1185  14.255
     > >>   1186  15.204
     > >>   1187  14.461
     > >>   1188  15.476
     > >>   1189  14.882
     > >>   1190  15.005
     > >>   1191  14.453
     > >>   1192  14.729
     > >>   1193  15.265
     > >>   1194  14.444
     > >>   1195  14.696
     > >>   1196  15.793
     > >>   1197  14.581
     > >>   1198  15.014
     > >>   1199  14.539
     > >>   1200  14.044
     > >>   1201  14.733
     > >>   1202  14.853
     > >>   1203  15.298
     > >>   1204  13.772
     > >>   1205  13.991
     > >>   1206  14.651
     > >>   1207  14.836
     > >>   1208  14.440
     > >>   1209  15.162
     > >>   1210  14.766
     > >>   1211  15.010
     > >>   1212  15.356
     > >>   1213  14.787
     > >>   1214  15.645
     > >>   1215  15.435
     > >>   1216  15.043
     > >>   1217  15.063
     > >>   1218  14.151
     > >>   1219  15.397
     > >>   1220  15.154
     > >>   1221  15.892
     > >>   1222  15.488
     > >>   1223  15.938
     > >>   1224  15.525
     > >>   1225  15.591
     > >>   1226  14.589
     > >>   1227  15.496
     > >>   1228  15.963
     > >>   1229  14.502
     > >>   1230  14.457
     > >>   1231  15.468
     > >>   1232  14.985
     > >>   1233  15.282
     > >>   1234  14.989
     > >>   1235  15.237
     > >>   1236  15.711
     > >>   1237  15.888
     > >>   1238  14.259
     > >>   1239  14.560
     > >>   1240  15.711
     > >>   1241  15.195
     > >>   1242  15.484
     > >>   1243  15.166
     > >  >  1244  16.020
     > >>   1245  16.454
     > >>   1246  15.480
     > >>   1247  15.492
     > >>   1248  16.528
     > >>   1249  15.150
     > >>   1250  14.436
     > >>   1251  14.878
     > >>   1252  15.723
     > >>   1253  15.043
     > >>   1254  15.121
     > >>   1255  14.845
     > >>   1256  14.807
     > >>   1257  14.482
     > >>   1258  14.585
     > >>   1259  15.307
     > >>   1260  15.100
     > >>   1261  14.354
     > >>   1262  13.995
     > >>   1263  14.106
     > >>   1264  14.403
     > >>   1265  14.754
     > >>   1266  14.581
     > >>   1267  14.799
     > >>   1268  14.378
     > >>   1269  14.671
     > >>   1270  14.193
     > >>   1271  14.387
     > >>   1272  14.453
     > >  >  1273  14.510
     > >>   1274  15.187
     > >>   1275  15.393
     > >>   1276  14.498
     > >>   1277  14.560
     > >>   1278  15.022
     > >>   1279  14.498
     > >>   1280  14.725
     > >>   1281  13.549
     > >>   1282  14.977
     > >>   1283  14.065
     > >>   1284  14.024
     > >>   1285  13.603
     > >>   1286  15.220
     > >>   1287  15.080
     > >>   1288  14.898
     > >>   1289  14.774
     > >>   1290  15.542
     > >>   1291  15.212
     > >>   1292  14.267
     > >>   1293  14.692
     > >>   1294  13.644
     > >>   1295  14.222
     > >>   1296  15.038
     > >>   1297  14.721
     > >>   1298  15.682
     > >>   1299  13.896
     > >>   1300  14.766
     > >>   1301  14.836
     > >>   1302  14.370
     > >>   1303  14.812
     > >>   1304  14.812
     > >>   1305  13.673
     > >>   1306  14.036
     > >>   1307  13.929
     > >>   1308  14.807
     > >>   1309  14.114
     > >>   1310  13.446
     > >>   1311  13.368
     > >>   1312  14.168
     > >>   1313  14.989
     > >>   1314  14.292
     > >>   1315  14.985
     > >>   1316  14.123
     > >>   1317  14.321
     > >>   1318  13.966
     > >>   1319  14.325
     > >>   1320  14.647
     > >>   1321  14.622
     > >>   1322  14.279
     > >>   1323  14.510
     > >>   1324  13.689
     > >>   1325  13.450
     > >>   1326  14.197
     > >>   1327  13.867
     > >>   1328  14.205
     > >>   1329  14.779
     > >>   1330  14.350
     > >>   1331  14.729
     > >>   1332  13.479
     > >>   1333  13.974
     > >>   1334  14.453
     > >>   1335  14.535
     > >>   1336  15.402
     > >>   1337  14.424
     > >>   1338  14.399
     > >>   1339  14.906
     > >>   1340  15.430
     > >>   1341  14.531
     > >>   1342  15.785
     > >>   1343  15.513
     > >>   1344  15.220
     > >>   1345  15.352
     > >>   1346  15.443
     > >>   1347  15.410
     > >>   1348  15.777
     > >>   1349  14.902
     > >>   1350  14.576
     > >>   1351  14.605
     > >>   1352  14.168
     > >>   1353  14.601
     > >>   1354  15.414
     > >>   1355  14.300
     > >>   1356  14.630
     > >>   1357  15.170
     > >>   1358  14.919
     > >>   1359  14.688
     > >>   1360  14.081
     > >>   1361  14.799
     > >>   1362  14.581
     > >>   1363  15.133
     > >>   1364  13.838
     > >>   1365  14.708
     > >>   1366  13.149
     > >>   1367  13.281
     > >>   1368  13.760
     > >>   1369  14.123
     > >>   1370  13.314
     > >>   1371  14.523
     > >>   1372  14.267
     > >>   1373  14.226
     > >>   1374  14.044
     > >>   1375  14.271
     > >>   1376  15.307
     > >>   1377  14.684
     > >>   1378  14.168
     > >>   1379  14.473
     > >>   1380  13.578
     > >>   1381  13.586
     > >>   1382  13.999
     > >>   1383  13.991
     > >>   1384  13.710
     > >>   1385  14.411
     > >>   1386  13.867
     > >>   1387  14.255
     > >>   1388  13.611
     > >>   1389  13.974
     > >>   1390  13.916
     > >>   1391  13.615
     > >>   1392  14.440
     > >>   1393  14.787
     > >>   1394  15.880
     > >>   1395  16.297
     > >>   1396  16.289
     > >>   1397  15.170
     > >>   1398  16.082
     > >>   1399  15.463
     > >>   1400  14.366
     > >>   1401  14.758
     > >>   1402  14.902
     > >>   1403  14.568
     > >>   1404  15.158
     > >>   1405  15.579
     > >>   1406  13.966
     > >>   1407  13.970
     > >>   1408  13.772
     > >>   1409  14.523
     > >>   1410  14.498
     > >>   1411  14.791
     > >>   1412  14.007
     > >>   1413  15.818
     > >>   1414  13.974
     > >>   1415  13.776
     > >>   1416  13.760
     > >>   1417  14.407
     > >>   1418  14.498
     > >>   1419  14.515
     > >>   1420  14.341
     > >>   1421  14.374
     > >>   1422  13.677
     > >>   1423  14.354
     > >>   1424  13.223
     > >>   1425  13.801
     > >>   1426  14.560
     > >>   1427  14.374
     > >>   1428  14.494
     > >>   1429  15.051
     > >>   1430  14.836
     > >>   1431  13.999
     > >>   1432  14.341
     > >>   1433  14.865
     > >>   1434  15.063
     > >>   1435  15.311
     > >>   1436  15.765
     > >>   1437  15.789
     > >>   1438  15.204
     > >>   1439  15.298
     > >>   1440  15.257
     > >>   1441  15.443
     > >>   1442  14.737
     > >>   1443  15.385
     > >>   1444  15.723
     > >>   1445  14.717
     > >>   1446  15.088
     > >>   1447  15.253
     > >>   1448  14.477
     > >>   1449  16.004
     > >>   1450  14.581
     > >>   1451  14.449
     > >>   1452  14.993
     > >>   1453  14.151
     > >>   1454  14.556
     > >>   1455  14.366
     > >>   1456  14.601
     > >>   1457  13.813
     > >>   1458  14.242
     > >>   1459  15.047
     > >>   1460  14.919
     > >>   1461  14.300
     > >>   1462  15.010
     > >>   1463  14.139
     > >>   1464  15.001
     > >>   1465  14.873
     > >>   1466  15.406
     > >>   1467  14.399
     > >>   1468  14.671
     > >>   1469  15.092
     > >>   1470  14.337
     > >>   1471  14.948
     > >>   1472  15.047
     > >>   1473  14.523
     > >>   1474  14.680
     > >>   1475  14.395
     > >>   1476  15.661
     > >>   1477  15.158
     > >>   1478  15.414
     > >>   1479  15.641
     > >>   1480  15.909
     > >>   1481  15.748
     > >>   1482  14.708
     > >>   1483  14.981
     > >>   1484  14.659
     > >>   1485  15.113
     > >>   1486  14.754
     > >>   1487  15.740
     > >>   1488  15.327
     > >>   1489  15.125
     > >>   1490  15.026
     > >>   1491  15.567
     > >>   1492  15.265
     > >>   1493  15.996
     > >>   1494  16.326
     > >>   1495  14.915
     > >>   1496  15.831
     > >>   1497  14.845
     > >>   1498  15.670
     > >>   1499  16.156
     > >>   1500  15.864
     > >  >  1501  15.831
     > >>   1502  16.581
     > >>   1503  15.212
     > >>   1504  15.534
     > >>   1505  15.270
     > >>   1506  15.492
     > >>   1507  15.633
     > >>   1508  14.420
     > >>   1509  15.723
     > >>   1510  14.816
     > >>   1511  15.282
     > >>   1512  15.641
     > >>   1513  14.655
     > >>   1514  14.510
     > >>   1515  13.508
     > >>   1516  14.172
     > >>   1517  14.251
     > >>   1518  13.628
     > >>   1519  13.698
     > >>   1520  13.405
     > >>   1521  13.920
     > >>   1522  13.974
     > >>   1523  13.978
     > >>   1524  14.238
     > >>   1525  14.003
     > >>   1526  13.298
     > >>   1527  13.694
     > >>   1528  15.005
     > >>   1529  14.218
     > >  >  1530  14.110
     > >>   1531  14.593
     > >>   1532  13.916
     > >>   1533  14.510
     > >>   1534  14.057
     > >>   1535  14.048
     > >>   1536  13.673
     > >>   1537  14.477
     > >>   1538  14.090
     > >>   1539  14.300
     > >>   1540  14.374
     > >>   1541  14.387
     > >>   1542  14.085
     > >>   1543  14.184
     > >>   1544  14.597
     > >>   1545  14.783
     > >>   1546  15.348
     > >>   1547  15.859
     > >>   1548  15.835
     > >>   1549  14.729
     > >>   1550  15.451
     > >>   1551  15.204
     > >>   1552  15.022
     > >>   1553  15.352
     > >>   1554  14.251
     > >>   1555  14.135
     > >>   1556  14.609
     > >>   1557  14.572
     > >>   1558  15.224
     > >>   1559  14.688
     > >>   1560  14.618
     > >>   1561  15.179
     > >>   1562  14.399
     > >>   1563  14.873
     > >>   1564  13.652
     > >>   1565  13.958
     > >>   1566  15.595
     > >>   1567  14.898
     > >>   1568  13.595
     > >>   1569  14.019
     > >>   1570  15.030
     > >>   1571  15.228
     > >>   1572  15.241
     > >>   1573  16.355
     > >>   1574  14.865
     > >>   1575  14.923
     > >>   1576  15.542
     > >>   1577  15.162
     > >>   1578  14.956
     > >>   1579  15.657
     > >>   1580  15.208
     > >>   1581  15.208
     > >>   1582  15.166
     > >>   1583  14.473
     > >>   1584  14.052
     > >>   1585  14.213
     > >>   1586  14.568
     > >>   1587  14.762
     > >>   1588  14.288
     > >>   1589  14.069
     > >>   1590  13.929
     > >>   1591  13.479
     > >>   1592  14.044
     > >>   1593  14.267
     > >>   1594  14.288
     > >>   1595  14.609
     > >>   1596  14.362
     > >>   1597  13.846
     > >>   1598  14.098
     > >>   1599  14.147
     > >>   1600  14.783
     > >>   1601  13.995
     > >>   1602  13.925
     > >>   1603  13.999
     > >>   1604  14.688
     > >>   1605  13.892
     > >>   1606  15.410
     > >>   1607  14.325
     > >>   1608  15.241
     > >>   1609  15.104
     > >>   1610  14.531
     > >>   1611  15.958
     > >>   1612  14.597
     > >>   1613  14.337
     > >>   1614  14.647
     > >>   1615  13.318
     > >>   1616  14.424
     > >>   1617  13.768
     > >>   1618  14.779
     > >>   1619  14.886
     > >>   1620  14.065
     > >>   1621  14.085
     > >>   1622  14.626
     > >>   1623  13.912
     > >>   1624  13.487
     > >>   1625  14.292
     > >>   1626  13.075
     > >>   1627  13.871
     > >>   1628  13.850
     > >>   1629  13.755
     > >>   1630  14.680
     > >>   1631  14.048
     > >>   1632  14.601
     > >>   1633  15.752
     > >>   1634  14.420
     > >>   1635  14.085
     > >>   1636  14.230
     > >>   1637  15.426
     > >>   1638  16.322
     > >>   1639  14.762
     > >>   1640  14.882
     > >>   1641  14.985
     > >>   1642  14.931
     > >>   1643  15.484
     > >>   1644  15.843
     > >>   1645  14.861
     > >>   1646  14.284
     > >>   1647  14.494
     > >>   1648  14.935
     > >>   1649  13.966
     > >>   1650  14.296
     > >>   1651  13.768
     > >>   1652  15.001
     > >>   1653  14.944
     > >>   1654  15.418
     > >>   1655  15.146
     > >>   1656  14.915
     > >>   1657  14.803
     > >>   1658  14.638
     > >>   1659  14.630
     > >>   1660  14.052
     > >>   1661  13.702
     > >>   1662  14.081
     > >>   1663  14.312
     > >>   1664  14.197
     > >>   1665  13.780
     > >>   1666  14.292
     > >>   1667  14.634
     > >>   1668  13.768
     > >>   1669  14.671
     > >>   1670  14.246
     > >>   1671  14.812
     > >>   1672  15.216
     > >>   1673  15.810
     > >>   1674  14.869
     > >>   1675  16.148
     > >>   1676  14.977
     > >>   1677  14.923
     > >>   1678  15.488
     > >>   1679  14.956
     > >>   1680  14.098
     > >>   1681  14.523
     > >>   1682  15.327
     > >>   1683  15.666
     > >>   1684  15.554
     > >>   1685  15.270
     > >>   1686  15.492
     > >>   1687  15.459
     > >>   1688  14.754
     > >>   1689  14.741
     > >>   1690  14.700
     > >>   1691  14.906
     > >>   1692  13.904
     > >>   1693  14.527
     > >>   1694  15.063
     > >>   1695  14.399
     > >>   1696  15.096
     > >>   1697  15.360
     > >>   1698  15.694
     > >>   1699  15.249
     > >>   1700  14.779
     > >>   1701  14.609
     > >>   1702  15.336
     > >>   1703  15.121
     > >>   1704  15.154
     > >>   1705  15.212
     > >>   1706  14.750
     > >>   1707  15.472
     > >>   1708  14.164
     > >>   1709  13.665
     > >>   1710  14.213
     > >>   1711  14.741
     > >>   1712  15.521
     > >>   1713  15.410
     > >>   1714  14.519
     > >>   1715  15.154
     > >>   1716  14.597
     > >>   1717  15.212
     > >>   1718  14.688
     > >>   1719  13.962
     > >>   1720  15.109
     > >>   1721  15.839
     > >>   1722  15.765
     > >>   1723  15.001
     > >>   1724  15.389
     > >>   1725  15.088
     > >>   1726  14.655
     > >>   1727  14.312
     > >>   1728  14.824
     > >>   1729  14.981
     > >>   1730  13.640
     > >>   1731  15.043
     > >>   1732  13.953
     > >>   1733  13.681
     > >>   1734  14.036
     > >>   1735  13.937
     > >>   1736  14.832
     > >>   1737  14.807
     > >>   1738  14.325
     > >>   1739  14.337
     > >>   1740  14.680
     > >>   1741  14.779
     > >>   1742  14.255
     > >>   1743  14.205
     > >>   1744  14.024
     > >>   1745  14.069
     > >>   1746  15.216
     > >>   1747  15.455
     > >>   1748  15.447
     > >>   1749  15.851
     > >>   1750  15.253
     > >>   1751  14.626
     > >>   1752  15.294
     > >>   1753  15.744
     > >>   1754  15.158
     > >>   1755  14.750
     > >>   1756  15.319
     > >>   1757  15.059
     > >  >  1758  15.195
     > >>   1759  14.725
     > >>   1760  14.609
     > >>   1761  14.869
     > >>   1762  15.212
     > >>   1763  15.505
     > >>   1764  14.634
     > >>   1765  15.175
     > >>   1766  14.552
     > >>   1767  15.109
     > >>   1768  14.312
     > >>   1769  14.090
     > >>   1770  14.246
     > >>   1771  14.127
     > >>   1772  14.667
     > >>   1773  14.312
     > >>   1774  14.659
     > >>   1775  14.296
     > >>   1776  14.527
     > >>   1777  14.069
     > >>   1778  15.005
     > >>   1779  14.832
     > >>   1780  15.146
     > >>   1781  14.865
     > >>   1782  14.102
     > >>   1783  13.735
     > >>   1784  14.510
     > >>   1785  14.052
     > >>   1786  14.795
     > >  >  1787  15.455
     > >>   1788  15.298
     > >>   1789  14.325
     > >>   1790  14.927
     > >>   1791  14.230
     > >>   1792  14.230
     > >>   1793  14.836
     > >>   1794  15.637
     > >>   1795  15.022
     > >>   1796  14.473
     > >>   1797  14.968
     > >>   1798  14.028
     > >>   1799  13.463
     > >>   1800  14.151
     > >>   1801  15.187
     > >>   1802  15.290
     > >>   1803  15.732
     > >>   1804  14.985
     > >>   1805  15.224
     > >>   1806  16.251
     > >>   1807  13.289
     > >>   1808  14.420
     > >>   1809  14.696
     > >>   1810  14.568
     > >>   1811  15.802
     > >>   1812  16.082
     > >>   1813  16.416
     > >>   1814  16.082
     > >>   1815  16.309
     > >>   1816  15.967
     > >>   1817  16.247
     > >>   1818  15.208
     > >>   1819  15.587
     > >>   1820  15.323
     > >>   1821  15.505
     > >>   1822  14.812
     > >>   1823  15.298
     > >>   1824  15.022
     > >>   1825  15.179
     > >>   1826  15.967
     > >>   1827  14.040
     > >>   1828  14.449
     > >>   1829  14.242
     > >>   1830  14.548
     > >>   1831  14.378
     > >>   1832  15.137
     > >>   1833  13.496
     > >>   1834  14.081
     > >>   1835  15.228
     > >>   1836  14.700
     > >>   1837  14.432
     > >>   1838  14.927
     > >>   1839  14.482
     > >>   1840  15.175
     > >>   1841  14.296
     > >>   1842  14.762
     > >>   1843  14.350
     > >>   1844  14.770
     > >>   1845  15.026
     > >>   1846  14.688
     > >>   1847  14.944
     > >>   1848  15.088
     > >>   1849  14.774
     > >>   1850  14.865
     > >>   1851  14.787
     > >>   1852  14.527
     > >>   1853  14.502
     > >>   1854  15.183
     > >>   1855  14.828
     > >>   1856  15.270
     > >>   1857  14.436
     > >>   1858  14.721
     > >>   1859  14.539
     > >>   1860  14.407
     > >>   1861  14.832
     > >>   1862  14.271
     > >>   1863  14.490
     > >>   1864  13.953
     > >>   1865  15.290
     > >>   1866  14.473
     > >>   1867  15.414
     > >>   1868  14.440
     > >>   1869  15.129
     > >>   1870  15.022
     > >>   1871  15.468
     > >>   1872  14.993
     > >>   1873  14.890
     > >>   1874  14.638
     > >>   1875  14.898
     > >>   1876  14.993
     > >>   1877  14.366
     > >>   1878  14.333
     > >>   1879  13.454
     > >>   1880  15.369
     > >>   1881  15.109
     > >>   1882  15.187
     > >>   1883  15.278
     > >>   1884  14.308
     > >>   1885  15.026
     > >>   1886  15.385
     > >>   1887  15.183
     > >>   1888  14.127
     > >>   1889  14.985
     > >>   1890  15.480
     > >>   1891  14.717
     > >>   1892  15.773
     > >>   1893  14.807
     > >>   1894  15.451
     > >>   1895  15.179
     > >>   1896  13.780
     > >>   1897  14.531
     > >>   1898  13.912
     > >>   1899  14.354
     > >>   1900  15.290
     > >>   1901  15.752
     > >>   1902  14.886
     > >>   1903  15.216
     > >>   1904  15.938
     > >>   1905  15.208
     > >>   1906  14.279
     > >>   1907  14.923
     > >>   1908  15.022
     > >>   1909  15.501
     > >>   1910  15.633
     > >>   1911  15.212
     > >>   1912  13.648
     > >>   1913  14.329
     > >>   1914  15.389
     > >>   1915  14.704
     > >>   1916  15.983
     > >>   1917  14.779
     > >>   1918  14.432
     > >>   1919  14.024
     > >>   1920  14.040
     > >>   1921  14.622
     > >>   1922  15.315
     > >>   1923  14.560
     > >>   1924  15.835
     > >>   1925  14.927
     > >>   1926  14.812
     > >>   1927  15.220
     > >>   1928  16.433
     > >>   1929  14.506
     > >>   1930  14.535
     > >>   1931  14.073
     > >>   1932  14.440
     > >>   1933  15.406
     > >>   1934  14.708
     > >>   1935  15.026
     > >>   1936  14.106
     > >>   1937  13.372
     > >>   1938  14.663
     > >>   1939  13.842
     > >>   1940  13.879
     > >>   1941  14.725
     > >>   1942  14.510
     > >>   1943  14.337
     > >>   1944  15.133
     > >>   1945  14.189
     > >>   1946  14.048
     > >>   1947  14.098
     > >>   1948  14.923
     > >>   1949  14.733
     > >>   1950  14.581
     > >>   1951  15.121
     > >>   1952  14.073
     > >>   1953  14.572
     > >>   1954  14.106
     > >>   1955  14.457
     > >>   1956  14.849
     > >>   1957  14.626
     > >>   1958  15.374
     > >>   1959  15.183
     > >>   1960  14.970
     > >>   1961  15.140
     > >>   1962  15.289
     > >>   1963  14.991
     > >>   1964  14.395
     > >>   1965  14.991
     > >>   1966  15.587
     > >>   1967  14.948
     > >>   1968  14.948
     > >>   1969  14.629
     > >>   1970  15.779
     > >>   1971  16.354
     > >>   1972  15.247
     > >>   1973  14.671
     > >>   1974  15.353
     > >>   1975  16.141
     > >>   1976  14.586
     > >>   1977  14.863
     > >>   1978  15.332
     > >>   1979  14.948
     > >>   1980  14.906
     > >>   1981  15.481
     > >>   1982  14.991
     > >>   1983  14.117
     > >>   1984  15.353
     > >>   1985  15.225
     > >>   1986  15.587
     > >>   1987  15.140
     > >>   1988  14.863
     > >>   1989  16.098
     > >>   1990  15.417
     > >>   1991  14.991
     > >>   1992  14.096
     > >>   1993  14.160
     > >>   1994  15.183
     > >>   1995  15.119
     > >>   1996  15.630
     > >>   1997  14.927
     > >>   1998  15.417
     > >>   1999  16.354
     > >>
     > >>On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Jonathan Overpeck wrote:
     > >>
     > >>>Thanks Ricardo and Ed! I personally am not a
     > >>>big fan of the Jones and Mann SH recon. It is
     > >>>based on so little. On the other hand, it is in
     > >>>the literature. So, I leave it up to you and
     > >  >>Keith to decide - perhaps Eystein can weigh in
     > >>>too.
     > >>>
     > >>>I do, however, think it would be really helpful
     > >>>to included the borehole data (see prev.
     > >>>emails) - either as a single SH curve, or
     > >>>(probably better) two regional curves
     > >>>(Australia and S. Africa). Is there a reason
     > >>>this is not a good idea? Can't complain about
     > >>>snow bias down there...
     > >>>
     > >>>Thanks again - I look forward to seeing the
     > >>>next draft and figure - complete w/ borehole I
     > >  >>hope.
     > >>>
     > >>>thx, Peck
     > >>>
     > >>>>Hi Keith,
     > >>>>
     > >>>>Please, find attached my last version of the SH temp. As you know, Ed
     > >Cook
     > >>>>returned my original version of the SH with minor comments. Overall,
     he
     > >>>>agreed with the text. Still I am waiting from him the Oroco Swamp data
     >to
     > >>>>include in the Figure, which first draft I sent you more than a month
     > >ago.
     > >>>>
     > >>>>In the last version I have included a first paragraph referring to the
     > >Jones
     > >>>>and Mann (2003) temperature reconstruction for the SH.  At that time
     we
     > >have
     > >>>>to decide if we want to have the hemispheric (Jones and Mann) and the
     > >>>>regional views (Tasmania, New Zealand, Patagonia, maybe include
     > >Antarctica
     > >>>>(Ommem et al. 2005)), or just one of them. If we decide to stay with
     the
     > >>>>hemispheric view, we should include Jones and Mann reconstruction at
     the
     > >>>>bottom of one of your figures. In cases that we decide to maintain
     both
     > >>>>hemispheric and regional views, we should include Jones and Mann at
     the
     > >>>>bottom of my figure.  Please, could you check with Peck and Eystein to
     > >see
     > >>>>the best way to proceed? Thanks,
     > >>>>
     > >>>>Ricardo
     > >>>>
     > >>>>
     > >>>>
     > >>>>----- Original Message -----
     > >>>>From: "Keith Briffa" <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>
     > >>>>To: <jto@u.arizona.edu>; "Eystein Jansen" <Eystein.Jansen@geo.uib.no>
     > >>>>Cc: <ricardo@lab.cricyt.edu.ar>; "Ed Cook"
     <drdendro@ldgo.columbia.edu>
     > >>>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:01 AM
     > >>>>Subject: the regional section and MWP Figure
     > >>>>
     > >>>>>   Guys
     > >>>>>   still need the SH temp bit from Ricardo/ED to edit and am
     exploring
     > >the
     > >>>>MWP
     > >>>>>   Figure - but the concept still is unclear to me - but we agreed to
     >do
     > >a
     > >>>>>   plot like Tom's . The regional section is still a worry  - I am
     >happy
     > >to
     > >>>>>   very briefly edit the section on NAO (possibly incorporate the
     ENSO
     > >>>>stuff )
     > >>>>>   but my understanding is that this section is best done (to
     >incorporate
     > >>>>also
     > >>>>>   the regional moisture work of Ed ) by Ricardo /Ed with input my
     >Peck.
     > >This
     > >>>>>   is still my opinion. I also would appreciate feedback re the
     >regional
     > >>>>>   forcing section that I think we may have to drop - but perhaps
     not.
     > >>>>>   Therefore I ask that when i get the SH temp stuff I will
     incorporate
     > >it
     > >>>>but
     > >>>>>   that you guys (Peck, Ricardo, Ed and Eystein interacting over the
     > >North
     > >>>>>   Atlantic bit) first review and redo the regional section .
     > >>>>>   It is important to get feedback from Henry re the borehole stuff
     and
     > >>>>>   involve Tom in the debate with all of us , of the value of the
     >Figure
     > >. In
     > >>>>>   meantime , will experiment with the Figure and review existing
     text
     > >and
     > >>>>bullets
     > >>>>>   Keith
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>   Keith
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>   --
     > >>>>>   Professor Keith Briffa,
     > >>>>>   Climatic Research Unit
     > >>>>>   University of East Anglia
     > >>>>>   Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>   Phone: +44-1603-593909
     > >>>>>   Fax: +44-1603-507784
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>   [1]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>>
     > >>>>
     > >>>>Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Southern
     > >>>>hemisphere2.doc (WDBN/IC) (0008A6E0)
     > >>>
     > >>>
     > >>>--
     > >>>Jonathan T. Overpeck
     > >>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
     > >>>Professor, Department of Geosciences
     > >>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
     > >>>
     > >>>Mail and Fedex Address:
     > >>>
     > >>>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
     > >>>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
     > >>>University of Arizona
     > >>>Tucson, AZ 85721
     > >>>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
     > >>>fax: +1 520 792-8795
     > >>>[2]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
     > >>>[3]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
     > >>>
     > >>==================================
     > >>Dr. Edward R. Cook
     > >>Doherty Senior Scholar and
     > >>Director, Tree-Ring Laboratory
     > >>Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
     > >>Palisades, New York 10964  USA
     > >>Email: drdendro@ldeo.columbia.edu
     > >>Phone: 845-365-8618
     > >>Fax: 845-365-8152
     > >>==================================
     > >
     > >
     > >--
     > >Jonathan T. Overpeck
     > >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
     > >Professor, Department of Geosciences
     > >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
     > >
     > >Mail and Fedex Address:
     > >
     > >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
     > >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
     > >University of Arizona
     > >Tucson, AZ 85721
     > >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
     > >fax: +1 520 792-8795
     > >[4]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
     > >[5]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
     > >
     > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:SHregteml 1.JPG (JPEG/IC) (0008ADC3)
     >
     >
     >--
     >Jonathan T. Overpeck
     >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
     >Professor, Department of Geosciences
     >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
     >
     >Mail and Fedex Address:
     >
     >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
     >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
     >University of Arizona
     >Tucson, AZ 85721
     >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
     >fax: +1 520 792-8795
     >[6]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
     >[7]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
     --
     Professor Keith Briffa,
     Climatic Research Unit
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
     Phone: +44-1603-593909
     Fax: +44-1603-507784
     [8]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

   --
   Professor Keith Briffa,
   Climatic Research Unit
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.

   Phone: +44-1603-593909
   Fax: +44-1603-507784
   [9]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

References

   1. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
   2. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
   3. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
   4. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
   5. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
   6. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
   7. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
   8. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
   9. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

