From: Jonathan Overpeck <jto@u.arizona.edu>
To: yvind Paasche  <oyvind.paasche@bjerknes.uib.no>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers]
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:10:05 -0600
Cc: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>, t.osborn@uea.ac.uk, Eystein Jansen <eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no>

   Hi all - let's see what Keith/Tim say about both papers. Eystein - can you call them on
   Monday if we haven't heard from them. If they don't have one or both of the papers, then we
   should ask Martin to delete from the chapter - Eystein, feel free to do this as soon as you
   get feedback from Keith/Tim. Mysterious...

   Thanks, Peck

     Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:14:19 +0200
     To: Eystein Jansen <Eystein.Jansen@geo.uib.no>
     From: yvind Paasche <oyvind.paasche@bjerknes.uib.no>
     Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers]
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     eystein-peck,

     I think we agreed that the Wilson paper should be deleted, but i don't know why its
     still in there. The Briffa paper is new to me (i think).

     Cheers,

     yvind

     Hi Keith,see correspondance below. Just to make sure. is the Briffa et al. paper
     submitted, or should it be deleted from the FOD? The ref to the Wilson et al. paper I
     assume comes from Peck/Julie, who can handle the issue. Right, Peck?

     Eystein

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     From: Martin Manning <mmanning@al.noaa.gov>
     Subject: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers]
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     Dear Eystein and Peck
     Following the release of the first draft of the WG1-AR4 we have had a response from
     Steve McIntyre (a name that should ring a bell) regarding unpublished literature in
     Chapter 6. He also asks about access to data sets but that is not an IPCC function so is
     easily dealt with.
     The unpublished papers that he has picked up as not being available are:
     Briffa, K.R., T.M. Melvin, V.V. Shishov, and et. al, 2005: Warm season temperatures
     across northern Eurasia: a 2000-year tree-ring based study. Quaternary Science
     Reviews(In preparation).
     and
     Wilson and al. 2005 (mentioned on page 6-31)
     The first of these was I think meant to be deleted from the text here and we may have
     made an error in missing that.  The second is cited but does not appear in the reference
     list so we did not pick it up as an unpublished paper that needed to be collected.
     Could you please let me know:
     1) are drafts for either of these papers available yet and if so can you send copies to
     the TSU?
     2) how do you expect to use these references in the second draft - remembering that we
     can only use papers that are in press at that time and that the Briffa et al paper is
     used quite a bit - e.g. on page 6-29.
     I am attaching the correspondence with McIntyre below for your information but the only
     issues you need to consider are those above, and we will handle any further interactions
     with McIntyre from here.
     Thanks
     Martin

     Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:42:00 -0600
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     Subject: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers]
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     -------- Original Message --------
     Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers
     Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:30:52 -0400
     From: Steve McIntyre [1]<stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca>
     To: IPCC-WG1 [2]<ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov>
     References: <026101c5bd56$fbafb280$6402a8c0@herbert> [3]<432F2687.3030101@al.noaa.gov>
     <029101c5bd95$4d2ae240$6402a8c0@herbert> [4]<43303CC7.7080401@al.noaa.gov>
     It's possible that the references were inadvertently left in, in which case your
     suggestion that a comment be pointed on the review form would obviously suffice.
     However, it's equally possible that the authors intend to use these references and they
     inadvertently failed to post them up on the website. If the latter, then they should ask
     the authors to post up the references. Could you verify which applies with the authors
     and, if the latter, take appropriate steps.


     Additionally, I have attempted to locate van Ommen, Annals of Glaciology, 39, mentioned
     in the same section. Can you confirm that this volume has either been printed or made
     available electronically (as I am presently unable to locate wither). If not, then this
     should be made available in a pdf form at the website.


     I have been unable to locate supplementary information or data archives for several of
     the articles posted at the pdf location for Chapter 6 and would appreciate assistance in
     this regard.
     1) Hegerl et al, submitted. Can you provide me with an ftp location for the proxy data
     used in this study (which does not even list the proxies used) or post it at your
     website.
     2) D'Arrigo et al, submitted. Again, this data has not been archived at WDCP. Can you
     provide me with an ftp location for the proxy data used in this study or post it at your
     website.

     Similarly, the SI to Rutherford et al, 2005 does not contain the Briffa et al. data set.
     Again can you provide an ftp location for this dataset or otherwise provide it.

     Thank you for your attention, Steve McIntyre



     ----- Original Message -----
     From: [5]IPCC-WG1
     To: [6]Steve McIntyre
     Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:45 PM
     Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers
     Dear Dr McIntyre,
     It would seem that the authors may have inadvertently left in the Wilson et al. and
     Briffa et al. citations, as I do not have copies of the preprints for either.  I
     apologize for the discrepancy and have made note of this error for the authors for
     correction of the next draft, but if you would also like to comment on this in your
     review, please do so.
     Best regards,
     Melinda Tignor
     Steve McIntyre wrote:

     Thanks for the directions. I found 5 of them there. I was still unable to locate Briffa
     et al, 2005 (QSR in prep) or Wilson and al. 2005 (mentioned on page 6-31). Could you
     take a  look for them. Thanks.


     ----- Original Message -----

     From: [7]IPCC-WG1
     To: [8]Steve McIntyre
     Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 4:58 PM
     Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers
     Dear Mr McIntyre,
     As mentioned on the Reviewer website, copies of unpublished literature may be downloaded
     for your review.  Papers for each chapter are found at the same website:
     URL: [9]http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/restricted/review/FOR/
     UserName: WG1-FOR
     Password: 2005Nov04
     Once inside the site, click on "Download Draft Chapters" on the left side of the page.
     From here, scroll down the page where you downloaded the chapter to the last sentence,
     "If you wish to see copies of unpublished papers cited in the draft chapters click here"
     - click "here" and you will be taken to another page listing all the chapters with
     unpublished literature and from clicking on the individual chapter you will be taken to
     the list of unpublished literature.
     Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
     Best regards,
     Melinda Tignor
     WGI TSU
     Steve McIntyre wrote:

     Dear Sirs,
     The covering literature indicated that the website would provide access to submitted,
     in-press, or otherwise unpublished papers and reports that are cited in the draft WG I
     report. In connection with Chapter 6, I was unable to locate the following:
     Briffa et al, 2005.  ( presumably this is the paper denoted as in prep. in the
     bibliography)
     DArrigo et al, submitted
     Hegerl et al, submitted
     Smerdon et al 2005. JGR (in review)
     Tett et al, submitted. Clim. Dyn. submitted.
     Wahl and Ammann 2004. (in review)
     Wilson and al, 2005 (referred to on page 6-31, but not in bibliography.

     Could you please post these on the website or email me pdf's. For these unpublished
     articles, could you also provide locations of FTP sites where the underlying data may be
     reviewed.
     Thank you for your attention,
     Stephen McIntyre


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References

   1. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
   2. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
   3. mailto:432F2687.3030101@al.noaa.gov
   4. mailto:43303CC7.7080401@al.noaa.gov
   5. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
   6. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
   7. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
   8. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
   9. http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/restricted/review/FOR/
  10. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
  11. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
  12. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov

