From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: Malcolm Hughes <mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: IN STRICTEST CONFIDENCE]
Date: Fri Oct  2 17:06:06 2009

    Malcolm,
       Keith should be reading emails. Probably been a misunderstanding. I've only glanced at
   the nonsense but didn't see anything related to Indigirka.  I see they are now getting at
   the Taimyr site, so Keith/Tom having to look at that one too.
        They have some extra data from Vlad which CA won't have, so whatever they say there
   will get more emails about keeping hold of more data. All the issues seem to relate to
   canopy closed sites like Fritz would have likely sampled and more open sites. They are
   trying to contact the Russians to get site pictures or anything else.
      Keith is on +44 1953 851013 if you fancy calling at the weekend.
      They get at us for keeping hold of data, but they have no intention of publishing in the
   peer-review literature!
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 16:56 02/10/2009, you wrote:

     Phil - just in case Keith is not opening email and Tom is helping him out by taking
     initiative, here's an email I just sent Keith. Unfortunately, I really had to respond to
     this. I hope all is going well for you. Cheers, Malcolm
     --
     Malcolm K Hughes
     Regents' Professor
     Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research
     The University of Arizona
     105 W Stadium
     Tucson, AZ 85721
     USA
     tel: +1-520-621-6470
     fax: +1-520-621-8229
     mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu
     [1]http://www.ltrr.arizona.edu/people/8
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     Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:50:05 -0700
     From: Malcolm Hughes <mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu>
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     To: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>
     Subject: IN STRICTEST CONFIDENCE
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     Dear Keith - I do hope your recovery continues apace, in spite of the recent nonsense. I
     really have had no intention to bother you with work stuff, and had  strongly encouraged
     Mike and Gavin to contact Tim and/or Tom putting a response on RlCl. So, I'm really
     reticent to raise something else, but must.
     What's going on? 21st September I got an email from Tom M that contained the following
     para, among other more general discussion:
     "Keith has been complained at by Climate Audit for cherry picking and not using your
     long Indigirka River data set. Not used because we did not have the data. Please, could
     we have the data? We will make proper aknowledgement/coauthorship if we use the data."
     I replied pretty much straight away thus: "Hi Tom - please find the Esper article in
     question attached. The so-called Indigirka River data set is not yet available because
     it has not been  published. I am currently working on that with Russian colleagues, and
     was indeed in Switzerland the week before last to work with one of them on specifically
     this. All being well, there will be an accepted manuscript before next summer, and at
     that point I will make the data freely available. Once we get to that point, I'll let
     you know, of course. Cheers, Malcolm" .
     So far, no direct response to this email from Tom.
     This morning I get an email from Anders Moberg, telling me that you had asked him for
     the "Indigirka data". I've waited a couple of hours before writing this email so as to
     try to be constructive. To be sure that you understand what that dataset is and is not,
     please  read the attached 2006 Moberg corrigendum.
     Once again, the actual data are unpublished, in spite of having been discussed in the
     Russian literature by Siderova et al. A large proportion of the raw data are not yet in
     the public domain, and so you would not be able to critically evaluate the chronology as
     a possible climate proxy. Why can that not be said - adequate metadata not available,
     please see Moberg corrigendum? By the way, a 600-year reconstruction is available
     (Hughes et al 1999, also attached), and all those raw data are at the ITRDB.
     As you know, it is my intention to friendly, cooperative and open, but I'm determined to
     get some scientific value from all the years of work I've invested in the Yakutia work,
     and in cooperation with Russia in general. Releasing these data now would be too much.
     Cheers, Malcolm
     --
     Malcolm K Hughes
     Regents' Professor
     Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research
     The University of Arizona
     105 W Stadium
     Tucson, AZ 85721
     USA
     tel: +1-520-621-6470
     fax: +1-520-621-8229
     mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu
     [2]http://www.ltrr.arizona.edu/people/8

   Prof. Phil Jones
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   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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