From: Michael Mann <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
To: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: thanks and one question
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:46:42 -0400
Cc: Gavin Schmidt <gschmidt@giss.nasa.gov>

   thanks Phil,

   I wondered where this completely false claim was coming with. Are these people really so
   clueless that they don't even understand that I have nothing to do with this whatsoever.
   Pretty much tells you everything you need to do.

   I never acknowledge emails from people I don't know, about topics that are in any way
   sensitive. this is a perfect example of something that goes right to the trash bin,

   mike

   On Oct 5, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Phil Jones wrote:

    Gavin, Mike,
       Thanks for this!
    I assume you are both aware of this prat - Neil Craig, see below. Keith won't be
   responding.
    Checking facts doesn't seem important these days. As CA threads aren't publications this
   is difficult for non scientists.
     I am going further over one email I got at the weekend - see also below. Typical of Sonia
   - although she now seems to only be an emeritus reader!
    Cheers
    Phil
   Return-path: <[1]CrgN143@aol.com>
   From: [2]CrgN143@aol.com
   Full-name: CrgN143
   Message-ID: <[3]d03.64b01875.37f87aa4@aol.com>
   Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:00:04 EDT
   Subject: Tree rings - accusation that you were solely responsible.
   To: [4]k.briffa@uea.ac.uk
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   Professor Briffa,
                            I have written a couple of blogs on the current report by Steve
   McIntyre that the data used by Mann to "prove" the hockey Stick was fabricated. This & the
   following day's
   [5]http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2009/10/global-warming-proven-deliberate-fraud.html
   .

         As a result I have received this email from somebody I am not aquainted with throwing
   the entire blame on you. This seems improbable to me & possibly an alarmist damage
   limitation exercise. If you wish to comment I would be happy for you to do so.

     "Please note: Steve McIntyre's post concerns work by climate scientist Keith Briffa and
   not Michael Mann. You will probably wish to correct your post.
   Cheers
   Avisame"

   I have posted this as an update with my reply:

   "My understanding is that while Briffa did the tree ring measurement, Mann, in his paper,
   chose to choose 12 atypical tree rings out of at least 34 to fabricate the global warming
   trend. My assumption is that Mann is responsible for fabrications in his own paper & that
   this is a damage limitation exercise. I am open to correction on this & indeed have emailed
   Mr Briffa to see. "

   Neil Craig
   You may be interested in my political blog
   [6]http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/
   We received this through our enquiries desk.  I assume that you are aware of this person,
   including those copied on the message.
   If we are to respond, it would be to indicate that there are multiple sources of supporting
   evidence and that we continue to place our confidence in the international scientific
   assessment process.  This confidence has proven to be well placed.
   Roger
   _____________________________________________________________________
           From: Sonja A Boehmer-Christiansen <[7]Sonja.B-C@hull.ac.uk>
           Date: 2 October 2009 18:09:39 GMT+01:00
           To: Stephanie Ferguson <[8]stephanie.ferguson@ukcip.org.uk>
           Cc: "Peiser, Benny" <[9]B.J.Peiser@ljmu.ac.uk>, Patrick David Henderson
   <[10]pdhenderson18@googlemail.com>, Christopher Monckton <[11]monckton@mail.com>
           Subject: RE: Please take note of potetially serious  allegations of scientific
   'fraud' by CRU and Met Office



           Dear Stephanie

           I expect that a great deal of UKCIP work is based on the data provided by CRU (as
   does the work of the IPCC and  of course UK  climate policy). Some of this, very
   fundamentally, would now seem to be open to scientific challenge, and may even face future
   legal enquiries. It may be in the interest of UKCIP to inform itself in good time and
   become a little more 'uncertain' about its policy advice.

           Perhaps you can comment on the following and pass the allegations made on to the
   relevant  people.

           It is beyond my expertise to assess the claims made, but they would fit into my
   perception of the whole 'man-made global warming' cum energy policy debate. I know several
   of the  people involved personally and have no reason to doubt their sincerity and honour
   as scientists, though I am also aware of their highly critical (of IPCC science) policy
   positions.

           I could also let you have statements by Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick. Ross
   McKitrick currently teaches at Westminister Business School and who is fully informed about
   the relevant issues. He recently addressed a meeting of about 50 people in London.

           Best wishes

           Sonja B-C

           Dr.Sonja A.Boehmer-Christiansen
           Reader Emeritus, Department of Geography
           Hull University
           Editor, Energy&Environment
            Multi-Science ([12] www.multi-science.co.uk)
           HULL HU6 7RX
            Phone:(0044)1482 465369/465385
           Fax: (0044) 1482 466340


           TWO copied pieces follow, both relate to CRU and UK climate policy

           a. THE MET OFFICE AND CRU'S YAMAL SCANDAL: EXPLAIN OR RESIGN

           " Jennifer Marohasy <[13]jennifermarohasy@jennifermarohasy.com>

           Leading UK Climate Scientists Must Explain or Resign, Jennifer Marohasy
           < <[14] http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/leading-uk-climate-scientists ->
   [15]http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/leading-uk-climate-scientists -
            must-explain-or-resign/>

   Prof. Phil Jones
   Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    [16]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
   NR4 7TJ
   UK
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