date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:13:32 +0100 (BST)
from: "Tim Osborn" <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>
subject: [Fwd: Re: Irritating science queries]
to: K.Briffa@uea.ac.uk

Hi Keith -- some minor query Mike wanted to let us know about, re Burger's
comment on our paper.  Hopefully he's already dealt with it by pointing
the enquirer to our published response. -- Tim

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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Irritating science queries]
From:    "Michael E. Mann" <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
Date:    Wed, September 26, 2007 6:11 pm
To:      "Tim Osborn" <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>
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Tim, I hope all is well w/ you.&nbsp; Just wanted to give you a heads up on
this,

mike

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Hey Richard,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the heads up on this. This is cherry-picking at its worst,
the sort of thing we have of course learned to expect from charlatans
like McIntyre. I guess its the flavor of the day in their desperate
ongoing disinformation campaign.<br>
<br>
Gerd Burger did indeed publish a comment criticizing the process by
which proxy data were selected in the paper by Osborn and Briffa '06
reinforcing the conclusion that late 20th century warmth was anomalous
in the context of the past 1000 years.&nbsp; But the Burger criticism was
definitively rebutted in the response by Osborn and Briffa, which I
have attached, which was published back-to-back w/ the criticism. The
rebuttal, in my view, settles the matter. The Osborn and Briffa '06
conclusions stand without modification.<br>
<br>
You might get in touch w/ Tim Osborn for more information, feel free to
use my name. His email is: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
 class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:t.osborn@uea.ac.uk">t.osborn@uea.ac.uk</a><br>
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I hope that's helpful,<br>
<br>
mike<br>
<br>
Richard Littlemore wrote:
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  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">Hi Michael,</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">I'm a DeSmogBlog writer (I got
your&nbsp;email from Kevin Grandia) and I am trying to fend off the <a
 moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1797">latest
announcement </a>that global warming has not actually occurred in the
20th century.</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">It looks to me like Gerd Burger
is trying to deny climate change by "smoothing," "correcting" or
otherwise rounding off the temperatures that we know for a flat fact
have been recorded&nbsp;since the 1970s, but I am out of my depth (as I am
sure you have noticed: we're all about PR here, not much about science)
so I wonder if you guys have done anything or are going to do anything
with Burger's intervention in <em>Science.</em></span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">I'd be delighted for any
response, no matter how brief, or for directions to any existing
critique.</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">Thx,</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">r</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007"></span>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">ps</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">(My apologies if I have missed
it, but the search function on your site is down - the server says
you're probably being too successful).</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007"></span>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font size="2">Richard Littlemore<br>
250-753-5065 vox<br>
250-753-5026 fax<br>
  <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:quotable@telus.net">quotable@telus.net</a> </font></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007">DeSmogBlog.com</span></div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007"></span>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><span class="593483815-26092007"></span>&nbsp;</div>
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Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University      email:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
 class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mann@psu.edu">mann@psu.edu</a>
University Park, PA 16802-5013

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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University      email:  <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:mann@psu.edu">mann@psu.edu</a>
University Park, PA 16802-5013

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm">http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm</a>

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