date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:30:10 +0800
from: Caspar Ammann <ammann@ucar.edu>
subject: Re: Another Reminder about your Wengen contribution
to: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

   Got it, thanks Phil.

   we are currently lucky, they just took half of the cars off the streets to test if they can
   reduce the air pollution in Beijing. ONly cars with either even or odd car plates are
   allowed. Not too many traffic jams this way either. Still, not your typical Boulder
   mountain air quality here...

   You'll have my text by the end of the weekend.

   Cheers,

   Caspar


   On Aug 23, 2007, at Aug 23/3:50 PM, Phil Jones wrote:

      Caspar,
         Here's the latest version. If you work on section 4 and 4.1.
      I'll add the ice core stuff in for section 2.3 over the weekend.
      I won't get a chance to do it before you leave. Any suggestions
      on the rest welcome. I've reminded Keith and Tim here!
      Have a look at what Gavin put in for 4.2.
       Enjoy Beijing!  If it rains you might see something, otherwise from
      my experience in mid July, it will just be about 200-300m then haze.

      Cheers
      Phil
     At 05:03 23/08/2007, you wrote:

     Hi Phil,
     poooh that is really very embarrassing ... YES, will send you a text and merge it with
     Gavin's and your stuff. I'm getting on an airplane Saturday morning and will use the 100
     million hours between Beijing and the US to draft this. A year should be enough it
     seems...
     Cheers,
     Caspar
     On Aug 22, 2007, at Aug 22/9:37 PM, Phil Jones wrote:

      Keith, Tim, Caspar,
          I will add in the ice core piece over the weekend. It was only
      about 5pp of text with no figures, so it shouldn't take too long
      for you to do your part!
         Those that wrote the ice core piece didn't even have the nice few days in Wengen!
      Cheers
      Phil

     Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:34:19 +0100
     To: Thorsten Kiefer <[1] Thorsten.Kiefer@pages.unibe.ch>
     From: Phil Jones <[2]p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
     Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR Intersection
      Thorstein,
         I have the ice core contribution. I have amended this, but not yet
      added it to the current draft. Ellen Mosley-Thompson is also
      keen to add a paragraph on tropical ice caps. She will do this
      soon, so she said over the weekend.
         I will send reminders to Keith Briffa, Tim Osborn and Caspar Amman -
      the only ones not to send anything yet. I have just reminded Tim as
      he is here. Keith is away.
         It wouldn't do any harm you sending them a strong reminder, as this
      whole exercise is dragging on!
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 13:24 22/08/2007, you wrote:

     Dear Phil,
     I just had contact with Larry Williams from EPRI for an update on
     PAGES/CLIVAR. Of course the question came up whether the missing
     chapters to the synthesis paper had come in and where it stands now?
     Can you give me a very brief update?
     Thanks and cheers
     Thorsten
     On 11 Jul 2007, at 14:19, Phil Jones wrote:

      Heinz,
        Thanks for the update on future plans for the PAGES/CLIVAR
     intersection.
      Work on the paper is coming along slowly. I just need contributions
      from Keith and Tim here and Caspar at NCAR. I'm away July 16-28,
      so I hope that the final contributions will arrive whilst I'm
     away, just like
      Swiss trains - always on time!
        I've reminded Keith and Tim, so remember Swiss timing Caspar!
      Cheers
      Phil
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 09:10 11/07/2007, Keith Briffa wrote:

     Hi Heinz
     I am in agreement with your outline - I would like to stress my
     own bias that PAGES (and the rest of us) need to be pursuing the
     issue of model validation (or specific process validation if you
     prefer) . There is much to be done on the area of exploring how
     models simulate the climate variability (and the nature of the
     association with forcings) that we reconstruct from the
     palaeodata. Many people, scientists among them, believe that the
     issue of global warming has nothing to gain from palaeolcimate
     studies and they are wrong. Issues such as the climate sensitivity
     of models versus the real world and the roles of specific forcings
     and their influence on the future, represent important foci for
     continued study. I would like to see this area of work and
     collaboration between palaeoclimatologists and climate (and
     ecological) modelers as an explicit priority of future work.
      At 14:41 09/07/2007, Heinz Wanner wrote:

     Dear Gavin, dear Eystein,
     PAGES has actually to formulate its new implementation plan. This
     gave us the opportunity also to discuss our engagement within the
     PAGES/CLIVAR Intersection part. Beside the publication of a basic
     methodological paper (coordinated by Phil) the decision of the
     Wengen meeting was (as far as I know):
     a) to organize a methodological workshop in Trieste (June 2008,
     mainly organized by Kim Cobb and Sandy Tudhope);
     b) to start the so-called PAGES/CLIVAR Reconstruction Challenge
     with three working groups: Modelling, pseudoproxies and
     reconstructions.
     In addition, Focus 2 of the new PAGES implementation plan intends
     to continue (or to start) to reconstruct the climate of the last
     2 ka with a very high resolution (continental, seasonal). If
     possible, the three important state parameters temperature,
     precipitation and air pressure should be reconstructed. Some
     groups already started with this work: Europe, North and South
     America. New initiatives will likely be taken by teams from Asia/ China, Australia and
     the Arctic.
     The question is now how we can coordinate these activities. Our
     suggestion is to organize two well coordinated meetings in 2008
     and 2009:
     2008
     - Workshops by the three working groups of the PAGES/CLIVAR
     Reconstruction Challenge, followed by the methodological PAGES/ CLIVAR workshop in
     Trieste (June 2008).
     2009
     PAGES Open Science Meeting in the U.S.: Special session on the
     actual results of PAGES, Focus 2: Regional reconstructions. The
     different modules of this workshop should be organized by the
     leaders of the different regional teams, such as Luterbacher,
     Briffa and Esper for Europe, Ammann and Wahl for North America,
     or Villalba and Grosjean for South America.
     1. Can I ask Kim and Sandy to answer whether they have already
     made plans for Trieste. The PAGES office offers to help to
     organize this meeting.
     2. Caspar, can you send out the official text of the PAGES/CLIVAR
     Reconstruction Challenge immediately. This text could form the
     basis for the definitive formation of the three working groups
     (and for the nomination of the group leaders  normally a
     difficult task!).
     3. I will personally help to plan the session of the U.S. Open
     Science session on regional reconstructions in 2009.
     The PAGES SSC meets soon in Australia. I will not attend this
     meeting, but Thorsten Kiefer will present the above mentioned
     ideas there. We ask all recipients of this mail to comment this
     concept and to send us our ideas or propositions.
     With very bets regards,   Heinz
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     National Center for Atmospheric Research
     Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology
     1850 Table Mesa Drive
     Boulder, CO 80307-3000
     email: [13]ammann@ucar.edu    tel: 303-497-1705     fax: 303-497-1348

     Prof. Phil Jones
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     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    [14]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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   National Center for Atmospheric Research
   Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology
   1850 Table Mesa Drive
   Boulder, CO 80307-3000
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