date: Thu Jan  3 10:15:12 2008
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: French stuff (+ 3 PDFs)
to: Edouard BARD <bard@cerege.fr>

    Hi Edouard,
        I saw some of these on the Real Climate web site. I also saw that Climate Audit
    also picked it up. They agreed with Pierrehumbert, but seemed to want to turn
    it into a pantomime (particularly English thing) and also a French Farce.
       Anyway it seems as though someone tracked down where Courtillot had
    got his data from. It did come from here, but it was on the NGDC site and it
    was only for the land N of 20N and just for April to September. So it wasn't
    what they said. Climate Audit tried to make something of this, but why not just take it
   from
    the CRU web site - like you did!
       Anyway I hope it doesn't run any more as well!  Happy New Year.
     Cheers
    Phil
    PS  Over Christmas I got these two emails from EPSL about 2 papers
    I reviewed and rejected. I'll forward just for you. I'm reviewer # 1, but there
    is an interesting note linking the editor to Courtillot.
   At 18:15 02/01/2008, you wrote:

     Bonsoir Phil,
     The media cover has been incredible, among others:
     [1]http://www.20minutes.fr/article/202189/Sciences-Les-sceptiques-francais-du-climat-acc
     uses-de-tricherie.php
     [2]http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3244,36-991405@51-853716,0.html
     [3]http://www.liberation.fr/transversales/futur/298894.FR.php
     There is also a long article in the third prominent French newspaper (Le Figaro, see
     attached PDF).
     Note that all these articles only describe the controversy from the "outside", i.e.
     without having me as a direct participant. Indeed, I don't want to be responsibe for
     unproven accusations of wrong doing. I also declined all sollicitations by medias
     (notably TV and radios).
     Hoping that this story will not lead to further problems, I wish you the best for this
     New Year 2008.
     Cheers, Edouard

     >Edouard,

            All the best for Christmas and the New Year!
      I don't regularly look at the Real Climate, but have done today.
      Ray Pierrehumbert has produced a great summary of the Courtillot
      et al. papers in EPSL (and your response). I had no idea the editor
      could remove a note added in proof, nor that he knew Courtillot et al
      either. It becomes a little clearer now, why I was getting emails from
      the editor. At least we all now know where the global T record came
      from.
        I had an email from a Swiss journalist a week ago. I will forward
      him the link. He wanted to refer to the article, but said it was awful
      and he should refer to this one attached by Lockwood and Frohlich.
      Mike Lockwood has two more in submission to the same journal,
      expanding on the ideas in this paper.
      Cheers
      Phil
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   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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