date: Fri Mar 11 15:16:38 2005
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: AGG Meeting
to: Richard Thigpen <thigpenr@erols.com>

    Dick,
       I know all the African problems, but we need to try. Trying to go to the
    Cairo workshop would be a good way, if many countries go. This would
    help in more ways than one. You'll get to use the software and meet the
    people on the ground and see who comes.
      Also we're going to be discussing an issue with CLIMATs at AOPC.
    This is item 6.7 on the agenda Hans has sent around. This is how the
    countries calculate their mean daily and hence mean monthly values.
    We discussed this in the context of the conf call last year re the
    Antarctic stations. There has been some discussion over emails for the
    last few months on this and we need to come up with an AOPC decision
    to recommend to CCL on this. If we don't we may have to pick up the
    pieces the new software will produce. If you ever get any queries on
    this, countries should stick with the method they have always used, not
    change to some method that might give better absolute values.
       If there is anyone I should tell how important it is for you to go to
    Cairo then let me know.
    Cheers
    Phil

   At 13:41 11/03/2005, you wrote:

     Phil,
     Yes, but...... Africa is what, 80 countries?  Most have not answered me yet.  Much
     easier said than done but still that's what we need to decide.  I may have some data
     rescue efforts starting there soon.
     Brazil has politely told me to leave them alone, its their business.
     Perhaps Carolina Vera can help us find a leverage point there.
     I think Karpov said the Cairo workshop was to be in the second quarter.
     No dates when he told me that but I'll find out.  Actually I would like to attend one
     just to see how easy our software really is.
     Should be a good AGG/AOPC meeting.
     See you soon.
     Dick
     Phil Jones wrote:

      Dick,
        OK, understand about the workshops. We should try in AOPC to link these
      with the other GCOS workshops and inform any future ones about the ETCCDMI
      (the extremes ones - like the one in Pune).Tom Peterson should have a report
      on this last one in CLIVAR Exchanges.
         These workshops (the Pune) have led to papers, so we can decide from
      them where we need other improvements. The big hole in S. America was
      the Amazon part of Brazil, so we should push Brazil for more there. With
      Canada and Russia sorted and maybe Mexico, the next big area should be
      Africa. There was a workshop in Cape Town, but there were a number of no
      shows, so we need to try to coax a number of African countries to begin
      transmitting. Maybe the Cairo workshop will help there. Do you know when
      that one will be?
          I think with the GSN we need to work on a few areas - Africa is the main one
      and also the Brazilian Amazon.
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 12:20 11/03/2005, you wrote:

     Hello Phil,
     The workshops I mean are the ones begun by WWW where they actually teach operators how
     to do CLIMAT and CLIMAT TEMP.  The first was in Moscow and the second is planned for
     Cairo.  They teach the software that we financed as well as the basic handbook that WWW
     produced.
     They (WWW) will need support if we want them to move quickly.  So I'd like to get AOPC
     to tell GCOS it is a high priority.  (Or not)
     As far as priorities, I believe we need them for both GUAN and GSN.
     As you note, GSN is not as much a money issue but the money I have been getting is "for"
     GUAN so no choice.
     I will send some background for at least Mexico soon.  Do you have an opinion of the
     next "big" area?  We got Russia, Brazil, Canada revisions.  To me we are getting down to
     the ones and twos here and there. Cheers
     Dick
     Phil Jones wrote:

      Dick,
         Been in Asheville this week, but now back.  Hans has put a good deal of
      time into the AOPC agenda for AGG.
         We do need to have some priorities if we have more money. This should
      be GSN rather than GUAN this time I feel, but I realise that GUAN will still
      take most of the money as GSN mods are relatively cheap. So, some
      up with some suggestions and we can prioritize at AOPC.
         The climate workshops - are these the ones that have developed indices?
      Like the one I went to in Pune last month, or do you mean the ones like
      Delhi? We do need to work on the voids in the GSN network. So, do
      all you can before AOPC. If you want to send me something sooner,
      then do and I'll go through it.
         I'll be away the week before AOPC and I'm coming straight from that
      meeting in Bologna to Geneva.
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 14:11 07/03/2005, you wrote:

     Good Day Phil,
     I am beginning to think about the up-coming AGG/AOPC meeting.  A few topics that I hope
     we can cover;
     A new GUAN priority list (in case we get more money)
     I am working with Mexico to revise their GSN list.  Anyone preferences are
     welcome/timely.
     Overall priorities for whatever funding we can get.  CLIMAT workshops, data rescue
     projects, etc.  How do these compare to GUAN renovations where most of the money has
     gone?
     Some of the big voids, such as in Asia, South America, Pacific. Another look/ discussion
     of the Pacific.  Given the state of some of the countries, should we add additional
     stations even if the distribution isn't perfect?
     I will get together the background (maps, etc.) that we will need. Any other topics you
     want to get prepared for?
     Some of these are AOPC  topics but perhaps an AGG review first.
     Cheers
     Dick

     Prof. Phil Jones
     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
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     Prof. Phil Jones
     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
     NR4 7TJ
     UK
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     Prof. Phil Jones
     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
     NR4 7TJ
     UK
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