cc: raynaud@glaciog.ujf-grenoble.fr, rbradley@geo.umass.edu, drdendro@ldgo.columbia.edu
date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:59:25 -0700
from: Jonathan Overpeck <jto@U.Arizona.EDU>
subject: Re: Crete or not Crete
to: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>

>Hi Keith - We ran into this same issue with PAGES/CLIVAR when we 
>first proposed Santorini rather than Venice. I'm pretty sure the EC 
>would buy into your plan for a hub approach because both Jean-Claude 
>and Andre Berger (two guys with lots of experience) thought it'd 
>work (Andre came up with the idea). Zimmie was less sure, but in the 
>end, I think he was open to it. The idea died, however, when no one 
>came forward to figure out the tougher logistics and arrange it all. 
>Thus, if you can arrange it, I'm suspect eveyone could be asked to 
>get to the hub and then charter down/up together. People who could 
>not would just have to pay the extra themselves. One pro to the plan 
>is that you'd get full particpation from more attendees. Most are 
>too cheap to leave early if they have to pay.


But, if you can't get fired up to deal with the extra pain in the 
butt logistics, I'd recommend picking an alternative "nice place". 
Our dear friend, Dominique is blessed with a nice place or two just 
uphill from his lab??? Ray seems to have a list of nice place in that 
direction too. What alpine valley needs exploration?

Hope this helps, Cheers, Peck


>Hi Guys
>        this is to let you know that Crete is looking less likely for our
>October HIHOL meeting. I amm having trouble getting "reasonably"  priced
>accomodation and to get there is not as straight forward as I had hoped. I
>am still pursuing some options and will come back with specific costings
>and suggestions as soon as I receive answers to some emails. We may though,
>have problems getting NSF to cough up the necvessary funding for about 20
>U.S. participants if it requires full board and extra travel from say
>Amsterdam or London or Athens   to Crete. This may also necessitate a
>regimented approach to gathering participants at some international hub and
>chartering them to Crete all together. Probably an unacceptable option for
>our Bolshy colleagues.
> Anyone of you know how much they would consider reasonable - without a
>direct query to them at this stage?
>      Keith
>--
>Dr. Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia,
>Norwich, NR4 7TJ, United Kingdom
>Phone: +44-1603-592090    Fax: +44-1603-507784

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