date: Thu Jul  8 16:43:06 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: RoG web page for the 2004 paper
to: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@virginia.edu>

    Mike,
       Rasmus wrote the response today and did the work yesterday ! Bright guy - but it
    was all basically very obvious.  I didn't have the time ! The IJC review only took 30
   minutes.
    If Rasmus can do this is a day, why can't MM see it. He has sent his response to the CR
    editor (still Kinne !) and also to McKittrick.
       Let me know more about a possible move at a later date. Hope you get somewhere good.
       We've just moved house - to one with beams built in the 17th century, but the
    extension at the back in 20 years old. The front rooms are the old part with the new at
    the back. We've been in 2 weeks now and still unpacking.
      It really is called the White House even though it is Suffolk Pink
    Cheers
    Phil
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 10:58 08/07/2004 -0400, you wrote:

     hey phil,
     just read that Benestad et al paper--its very nicely done. Basically, McKitrick repeats
     the same problem over and over again (i.e., in their critique of us, and in their latest
     critique of the instrumental record). They form statistical models and fail to evaluate
     the skill through cross-validation. When one does that, the models indicate no skill!
     Amazing that it once again boils down to the same issue. They  must know better. If they
     do, that suggests something worse...
     mike

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