date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:12:28 -0400
from: Michael Mann <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
subject: Re: request for some additional info.
to: P.Jones@uea.ac.uk

   p.s. Phil--there's no rush on this. the package isn't due until the end of the month. And I
   don't really need the whole papers or even the abstract-mostly I was just interested in
   what the two early papers w/ Wigley were about. were they data analysis, model
   data/comparison, etc? I just though it would be useful to mention that you did work on the
   issue of anthropogenic climate change well quite early on, which is what the titles of the
   papers seem to suggest. but I didn't want to mention w/out having some idea of what the
   papers were actually about. so if you could describe to me in just a short sentence each,
   that'd be great...
   [1]P.Jones@uea.ac.uk wrote:

 Mike,
   Off to the US tomorrow for 1.5 days in Asheville.

 On 1, this is what people call the H index. I've tried working
 this out and there is software for it on the web of science.

 Problem is my surname. I get a number of 62 if I just use the
 software, but I have too many papers. I then waded through
 and deleted those in journals I'd never heard of and got
 52.  I think this got rid of some biologist from the 1970s/1980s,
 so go with 52.

 I don't have pdfs of the early papers. I won't be able to do
 anything for a few days either.  When do you want this in, by
 the way?  Can you email me the piece I wrote for you, as I don't
 have this on my lap top. I can then pick it up tomorrow
 at some airport.

   The D&A work has always been with others.  There is another
 area on hydrology that I omitted as well.

   Keith's daughter is OK. She had the operation last Tuesday.
 He should be over in Birmingham this weekend.

 Cheers
 Phil




     Hi Phil,

 I'm continuing to work on your nomination package (here in my hotel room
in Trieste--the weather isn't any good!). If its possible for a case to
be too strong, we may have that here! Lonnie is also confirmed as
supporting letter writer, along w/ Kevin, Ben, Tom K, and Jean J. (4 of
the 5 are already AGU fellows, which I'm told is important! Surprisingly,
Ben is not yet, nor am I.  But David Thompson is (quite young for one of
these). I'm guessing Mike Wallace and Susan Solomon might have had
something to do w/ that ;)

 Anyway, I wanted to check w/ you on two things:

 1. One thing that people sometimes like to know is the maximum value of
"N" where "N" is the number of papers an individual authored/co-authored
that have more than N citations.  N=40 (i.e., an individual has published
at least 40 papers that have each been cited at least 40 times) is
supposedly an important threshold for admission in the U.S. National
Academy of Sciences. I'm guessing your N is significantly greater than
that, and it would be nice to cite that if possible. Would you mind
figuring out that number and sending--I think it would be useful is
really sealing the case.

 2. Would you mind considering a minor revision of your 2 page
bibliography. In my nomination letter, I'm trying to underscore the
diverse areas where you've made major contributions, and I think its well
known and obvious to many that two of these are instrumental data and
paleoclimate reconstructions. But it occurs to me that it is equally
important to stress your work in detection of anthropogenic impacts on
climate w/ both models and observations.  For example, your early Nature
papers w/ Wigley. in '80 and '81 seem to be among the earliest efforts to
try to do this (though I don't have copies of the papers, so can't read
them!), and that seems very much worth highlighting to me.  My suggestion
is that you add a category on "Anthropogenic Climate Signal" detection
and include this work (say, 8 or so of the key papers in this area
including the two early Nature one's w/ Wigley) as well as some of your
later work w/ Santer/Tett/Thorne/Hegerl/Barnett. I realize that most of
your work in this area isn't as primary author, but I do think it would
be helpful to show this side of your research, and I'd like to
incorporate that into my nomination letter (i.e. how critical your
efforts have been to developments in areas such as D&amp;A).   You could
still fit this onto 2 pages by making the font smaller for the references
(10pt rather than 11 pt) while keeping the headings at 11 pt, and if
necessary you could probably sacrifice a few of the surface temperature
record references to make space for the additional references.

 Also, if you happen to have pdfs of the two early Wigley papers, or even
just the text for the abstracts, it would be great to have a little more
detail about those papers so I can appropriately work them into the
narrative of my letter.

 thanks for any help,

 mike

 p.s. please tell Keith I was very sorry he was unable to make it here to
Trieste, I was really looking forward to seeing him (as were Ed and many
others here).  I hope all is well w/ his daughter.
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Center (ESSC)  Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814)
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Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
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