date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:03:05 -0400
from: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
subject: Re: Something not to pass on
to: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

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Phil,

I would not respond to this. They will misrepresent and take out of 
context anything you give them. This is a set up. They will certainly 
publish this, and will ignore any evidence to the contrary that you 
provide. s They are going after Wei-Chyung because he's U.S. and there 
is a higher threshold for establishing libel. Nonetheless, he should 
consider filing a defamation lawsuit, perhaps you too.

I have been talking w/ folks in the states about finding an 
investigative journalist to investigate and  expose McIntyre, and his 
thusfar unexplored connections with fossil fuel interests.Perhaps the 
same needs to be done w/ this Keenan guy.

I believe that the only way to stop these people is by exposing them and 
discrediting them.

Do you mind if I send this on to Gavin Schmidt (w/ a request to respect 
the confidentiality with which you have provided it) for his additional 
advice/thoughts? He usually has thoughtful insights wiith respect to 
such matters,

mike

Phil Jones wrote:
>  Kevin, Mike,
>      Sending just for your thoughts. The Appendix of this attachment 
> has gone
>  to SUNY Albany and is being dealt with by them. Not sure when, but
>  Wei-Chyung has nothing to worry about.
>      I've sent to Wei-Chyung and also to Tom Karl. Q is should I respond?
>  If I don't they will misconstrue this to suit their ends.  I could 
> come up
>  with a few sentences pointing out the need to look at the Chinese data
>  rather than just the locations of the sites. Looking further at Keenan's
>  web site, he's not looked at the temperature data, nor realised that the
>  sites he's identified are the urban stations from the 1990 paper. He has
>  no idea if the sites for the rural Chinese stations moved, as he doesn't
>  seem to have this detail. Whatever I say though will be used for 
> whatever, so it
>  seems as though I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.
>
>      Does the email suggest to you this is a request for a formal review?
>  E&E have an awful track record as a peer-review journal.
>
>  Footnote 8 is interesting. Grape harvest dates are one of the best 
> documentary
>  proxies.
>
>  Cheers
>  Phil
>
>> Subject: review of E&E paper on alleged Wang fraud
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:18:04 +0100
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>> Dear Dr Jones
>>
>> I have attached a copy of Doug Keenan's paper on the alleged Wang fraud
>> that was submitted for the forthcoming issue of Energy & Environment
>> http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/mscp/ene.
>>
>>
>> I was wondering whether you would be happy to comment on its content and
>> factual accuracy. Your comments and suggestions would be much
>> appreciated. We would need your feedback by Sept 17.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Yours sincerely
>>
>> Benny Peiser
>> Guest editor, E&E
>> Liverpool John Moores University, UK
>>
>>
>
> Prof. Phil Jones
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> School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
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