cc: Mike Hulme <m.hulme@uea.ac.uk>, p.jones@uea.ac.uk, Ben Santer <santer1@llnl.gov>
date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 07:51:43 -0600
from: Tom Wigley <wigley@ucar.edu>
subject: Re: Fwd: Climate Research
to: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@virginia.edu>

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Mike (Mann),
I agree that Kinne seems like he could be a deFreitas clone. However, 
what would be our legal position if we were to openly and extensively 
tell people to avoid the journal?
Tom.
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Michael E. Mann wrote:
> Thanks Mike
> 
> It seems to me that this "Kinne" character's words are disingenuous, and 
> he probably supports what De Freitas is trying to do. It seems clear we 
> have to go above him.
> 
> I think that the community should, as Mike H has previously suggested in 
> this eventuality,  terminate its involvement with this journal at all 
> levels--reviewing, editing, and submitting, and leave it to wither way 
> into oblivion and disrepute,
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> mike
> 
> At 01:00 PM 7/3/2003 +0100, Mike Hulme wrote:
> 
>> Phil, Tom, Mike,
>>
>> So, this would seem to be the end of the matter as far as Climate 
>> Research is concerned.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> To
>>> CLIMATE RESEARCH
>>> Editors and Review Editors
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> In my  20.06. email to you I stated, among other things, that I would 
>>> ask CR editor Chris de Freitas to present to me copies of the 
>>> reviewers' evaluations for the 2 Soon et al. papers.
>>>
>>> I have received and studied the material requested.
>>>
>>> Conclusions:
>>>
>>> 1) The reviewers consulted (4 for each ms) by the editor presented 
>>> detailed, critical and helpful evaluations
>>>
>>> 2) The editor properly analyzed the evaluations and requested 
>>> appropriate revisions.
>>>
>>> 3) The authors revised their manuscripts accordingly.
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>>
>>> Chris de Freitas has done a good and correct job as editor.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Otto Kinne
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