date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:48:49 +0100
from: Rasmus Benestad <rasmus.benestad@met.no>
subject: Re: Apologies fro spoiling your day!
to: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

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Hi,

I have made a stab at drafting an RC-post. If you wish or have time to 
comment it, I'd be happy to get some feedback...

Cheers!

Rasmus

Phil Jones wrote:
> 
>  Rasmus,
> 
>      1 site on Svalbard
> 
>  Just sent this to someone else.
> 
>  If you redid this analysis with RSS it would all likely go away!
> 
>  Cheers
>  Phil
> 
> 
>   Did I say JGR would be a better outlet for a paper !  I thought it was a
>  good journal with sound refereeing!  Just been sent the attached by a
>  journalist. No idea when it is coming out - but it seems as though it has
>  passed their peer review.
>    I know they have done this sort of thing before, but they weren't in 
> very good
>  journals.
> 
>     Basic premise - let's find a way to adjust the surface and we'll 
> sort of
>  hope we'll get something like the UAH MSU distribution of trends.
> 
>      When reading it, you may be saying to yourself - I don't recall 
> that paper
>  coming to this or that conclusion. You will be right - the papers don't.
>  Seems as though you can fool at least 3 reviewers, by adding in token
>  references for totally invalid reasons.
> 
>      Although it will make no difference if they had used a more up to date
>  reference, the three lines at the start of paragraph starting on p15. 
> It is
>  good to remember and occasionally reference Roy Jenne, but his being
>  the latest source they could find for the mean pressure in each grid cell
>  has to be a wind up! Did they not consider NCEP - they refer to
>  Kalnay and Cai copiously.  Then there is ERA-40, HadSLP2. Can anybody
>  think of a pressure climatology before Jenne (1974)!
> 
>    Oh yes - when saying that the land temperature trends have to be
>  reduced (to remove these extraneous effects) did they ever consider
>  what the ocean (particularly the tropical ones) has done over the same
>  period. Of course not!!
> 
>  Seems no mention of RSS - or uncertainty in the MSU measurements.
> 
> 
> At 13:18 05/12/2007, you wrote:
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> Thanks. I received a copy from Gavin, and plan to write a RealClimate 
>> post to it for starters. It provides a good opportunity to rip into 
>> their response in CR on my criticism (which was even more extreme). No 
>> need to appologise, as you didn't manage to spoil my day after all :-).
>>
>> By the way, how many series did you use for Svalbard in the gridded data?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Rasmus
>>
>> Phil Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Rasmus,
>>>      Apparently this paper is coming out in JGR -
>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>  Can't express my feelings without invoking the mood aspects of the 
>>> emailer.
>>>  There is just so much wrong with it, it is laughable.
>>>  They appear to be sending it around to journalists. No idea when it's
>>>  coming out. JGR has gone downhill by several steps!
>>>  Cheers
>>>  Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> Prof. Phil Jones
>>> Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
>>> School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
>>> University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
>>> NR4 7TJ
>>> UK 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
> 
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
> NR4 7TJ
> UK 
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