cc: Grant Foster <tamino_9@hotmail.com>, j.renwick@niwa.co.nz, b.mullan@niwa.co.nz, p.jones@uea.ac.uk, Mike Mann <mann@meteo.psu.edu>, James Annan <jdannan@jamstec.go.jp>, Gavin Schmidt <gschmidt@giss.nasa.gov>
date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:50:03 +1200
from: Jim Salinger <j.salinger@auckland.ac.nz>
subject: RE: McLean et al. 2009 our response
to: trenbert@ucar.edu

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Greetings Kevin

 From a hot Geneva night - although I have just calculated that August  
in NZ was the warmest ever: 10.4 which is +1.7 deg C and equal to  
average September.

I did look up the AGU structure and Alan currently chairs the  
Atmospheric Sciences part. And Tim Kileen is the past president, the  
new president having just come and being a geologist. I am more than  
happy with the approach you suggest but, as doubtless you know, the  
deniers are really publicising it.

Hope all is well with your parents...I am back properly Thursday next  
week, but in NZ from Tuesday (at RSNZ workshop in Wellington workshop  
on acidification Wednesday)

Best

Jim


Quoting Kevin Trenberth <trenbert@ucar.edu>:

> Hi Jim
> I am in chch.  Not sure that this is the right thing to do.  Look up the
> AGU structure and see if there is a publications board or commission.
> They are the ones who should be written to if anyone.  Wouldn't hurt to cc
> Alan.  Also you should say that you believe there was a breakdown in the
> editorial oversight and reviewing process.  Do not say "shocked".  Hint
> that the commission should approach the responsible editor to upgrade
> his/her practices.
> Kevin
>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> At WCC-3 in Geneva and just been talking with Steve Schneider who has
>> been getting sick of being approached by folk quoting McLean et al at
>> him. He strongly suggests we should write a courtesy letter to the
>> Atmospheric Sciences Section of AGU, chaired by Alan Robock - see
>>
>> http://www.agu.org/inside/section_officers.php#A
>>
>> copied to the past president of AGU Tim Kilean along the lines:
>>
>> Dear AGU Officers for Atmospheric Sciences
>>
>> We thought as a courtesy we should send to you our response to the
>> paper by Mclean et al in JGR. We are shocked that such a paper was
>> published.
>>
>> Yours etc
>>
>> Paper attached
>>
>> I strongly suggest we do, as alan Robock and others would be horrified.
>>
>> Agree?? If son Grant perhaps should write it and send as lead author.
>> If you don't let me know
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Jim
>> \
>> Quoting Grant Foster <tamino_9@hotmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>> One thing that would definitely be of help: can someone familiar with
>>> the literature about ENSO/temperature correlations write a brief
>>> section on what was already known about this (with references)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Grant
>>>
>>>
>>>
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