cc: "Jones Philip Prof (ENV)" <P.Jones@uea.ac.uk>
date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:30:21 +0100
from: "Ogden Annie Ms (MAC)" <A.Ogden@uea.ac.uk>
subject: RE: FW: Concrete News - HADCRU Data
to: "Jones Philip Prof (ENV)" <P.Jones@uea.ac.uk>, "Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)" <l212@uea.ac.uk>

Dear Phil,
I would just advise again that the more information we give them the more column inches they come up with - but I agree that the factual inaccuracies need to be stamped on. 
Best, Annie 

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Annie Ogden, Head of Communications,
University of East Anglia,
Norwich, NR4 7TJ.
Tel:+44 (0)1603 592764
www.uea.ac.uk/comm 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: P.Jones@uea.ac.uk [mailto:P.Jones@uea.ac.uk] 
>Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:39 PM
>To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)
>Cc: Ogden Annie Ms (MAC); Jones Philip Prof (ENV)
>Subject: Re: FW: Concrete News - HADCRU Data
>
> Dave, Annie,
>   Best to suggest to Nick that he talks to me. We've lost no 
>data, as I keep telling anybody. The gridded datasets are 
>sitting on the CRU site for anybody to download.
>   If you want me to contact Nick I can do, but he's got two 
>things wrong already - so this suggests the article isn't 
>going to be any good.
>
>  I had told Nick that I couldn't see him till the week of 
>Sept 28. It seems he has made up hid story already!
>
> Cheers
> Phil
>
>> Annie,
>> Now what? Clearly the article would appear to have a 'slant' that is 
>> not favourable to the University.  I have commented on Concrete 
>> articles in past although I'm not sure what notice was taken 
>of my comments.
>> I feel myself being drawn into this.....
>>
>> Cheers, Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nicolas.Church@uea.ac.uk [mailto:Nicolas.Church@uea.ac.uk]
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:19 PM
>> To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)
>> Subject: RE: Concrete News - HADCRU Data
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. Would a time be possible the following 
>week? If 
>> you would like I could send a draft of the article in advance of 
>> printing in which you could reply, if relevant to your job role, on 
>> specific issues raised?
>>
>> Also, to help with the accuracy of the article, could you comment on 
>> accusation that these agreements have been breached and 
>undermined by: 
>> the transfer of gridded data to Peter Webster but the refusal, under 
>> conditions of CRU agreements, of the same data to other scientists; 
>> the admitted loss of copies of agreements CRU hold with countries or 
>> particular weather stations.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Nick
>>
>>> Nick,
>>> I'm pretty busy this week so an interview doesn't look likely.
>>>
>>> However, what I can state is that the Climatic Research 
>Unit has made 
>>> available full gridded datasets of surface temperature data and 
>>> averages since 1982 (on its website since the late 1990s). These 
>>> datasets have been compiled from data acquired from weather 
>stations 
>>> around the world, courtesy of Meteorological agencies such as the 
>>> UK's own Met Office.
>>> Some
>>> of these organisations give us this information on the 
>understanding 
>>> that it is used solely for the compilation of our gridded datasets 
>>> and may only be used with the full permission of the 
>relevant agency.
>>>
>>> We receive numerous requests for the raw data provided to CRU. The 
>>> data are not ours to pass on without the full permission of the 
>>> relevant Met Services, but CRU hopes in future that it may 
>be able to 
>>> provide this information, jointly with the Hadley Centre, 
>subject to 
>>> obtaining consent for publication from the rights holders.
>>>
>>> The methodology used in compiling datasets from this raw data is 
>>> fully explained in many published scientific papers by CRU staff.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Dave
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Nicolas.Church@uea.ac.uk [mailto:Nicolas.Church@uea.ac.uk]
>>>>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:39 PM
>>>>To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)
>>>>Subject: Concrete News - HADCRU Data
>>>>
>>>>Mr.Palmer,
>>>>
>>>>I'm the News Editor, Nick Church, for UEA's student paper, 
>Concrete.  
>>>>I'm in the process of writing an article on the recent 
>controversy of 
>>>>CRU data and its availability and transparency with the scientific 
>>>>community.
>>>>
>>>>Would it be possible to have a discussion next week over 
>this subject 
>>>>and the numerous FOI/EIR requests made and currently in 
>process over 
>>>>this data and topic?
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>Nick Church
>>>>Concrete News Editor
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
