date: Thu Feb 14 12:45:13 2008
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Tom Wigley (wigley@ucar.edu) has sent you a news story from
to: <wigley@ucar.edu>

     Tom,
        Dave Bromwich's papers (one in JGR an done in GRL) in 2007
    are both about how poor Reanalyses are in the Antarctic cf the
    Arctic.  Main issue is that both NCEP and ERA-40 rejected
    most of the surface data prior to 1979 and ERA-40 worked hard
    to get mores sondes in from the BAS Reader project, but then
    screwed up getting these in.
        So not sure what this news alert is about. Even in the Peninsula,
    the warming is probably just significant. The SD is amazingly high
    in this region.
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 23:38 13/02/2008, you wrote:

     Hi Phil,
     Interesting re the Antarctic paper -- which I have not read.
     I'm very suspicious of this. SNR is such that one cannot
     usefully compare models and obs -- not to mention obs
     uncertainties, and problems with getting the sfce signal
     effect of ozone depletion. Re the latter, Susan Solomon
     thinks the models are very poor at this.
     Tom.
     "Climate change, gender differences, health among EurekAlert! 10 Most Pop=
     ular Stories in 2007"
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