date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:24:54 +0000
from: Tim Osborn <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: FW: TOR temperature reconstruction
to: "Myles Allen" <m.allen1@physics.ox.ac.uk>, "Martin Juckes" <M.N.Juckes@rl.ac.uk>,"Gabi Hegerl" <hegerl@duke.edu>, "Keith Briffa" <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>

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At 13:28 09/02/2005, Myles Allen wrote:
>We appear to be it.  The original TOR suggested 80keuro might be 
>available, and it seems we can reasonably bid for a fair chunk (up to all 
>if it's justifiable) of that money.  This suggests we could include some 
>personnel costs as well as travel.  I've already talked this over with 
>Martin: would Gabi or Tim be interested, either in the form of salary 
>support via your institutions or as direct sub-contractors (I'm easy 
>either way)?  I assume, from Keith's e-mail, that Keith only wants travel 
>support.

Hi Myles

I can't find a copy of the TOR or of Keith's reply, but want to re-iterate 
the basic tone of Keith's message which is that neither of us could 
contribute in the next, say, 3 months due to other commitments.  But if the 
time scale extends considerably beyond that, then we can start 
talking!  Some salary support in return for well-defined tasks might be 
possible - depending on the size and whether this was enough to pay a post 
doc for a few months, or are you just talking a few days 
"consultancy"?  Alternatively, of course we could collaborate, though would 
you expect us to be sharing our already developed ideas and plans regarding 
the "hockey stick" issue, given that we plan to undertake some such work 
ourselves, as written into existing projects/proposals?  Sorry if this 
sounds hard-nosed!  I don't mean to be, but am just torn between (i) 
avoiding committing too much from ourselves, whether funded or not; (ii) 
maintaining a spirit of collaboration; and (iii) ensuring that we can 
continue to make our own unique/independent contribution to this 
issue.  Ideally the time table would stretch to allow us to make a fuller 
contribution later in the year, but since it's probably very much a 
policy-driven problem, I guess the Dutch want the answer ASAP!  Could you 
expand on what you would want from us?  Anyway, thanks for inviting us and 
maybe we can work something out.

Best wishes

Tim

Dr Timothy J Osborn
Climatic Research Unit
School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
Norwich  NR4 7TJ, UK

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