cc: Nathan Gillett <n.gillett@uea.ac.uk>, Gabi Hegerl <gabi.hegerl@ed.ac.uk>, Peter Stott <stott.peter@googlemail.com>, Toru Nozawa <nozawa@nies.go.jp>, Alexey Karpechko <A.Karpechko@uea.ac.uk>, Michael Wehner <MFWehner@lbl.gov>
date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:34:43 +0100 (BST)
from: Dith Stone <stoned@atm.ox.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Fwd: Decision on Nature manuscript 2008-04-03762
to: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

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I agree there probably isn't any point in trying Science now.  Nature 
Geoscience could be worth a try, I haven't figure out how they work yet. 
Or GRL.  Or perhaps Environmental Research Letters?  They've looked pretty 
good so far and by the breadth of perhaps seem to have a reasonably broad 
readership.
DA

On Thu, 1 May 2008, Phil Jones wrote:

>
> Nathan,
>     I would expect Science to make the same decision as Nature, 
> unfortunately.
> It seems that they both want papers which have a little more controversy.
> I though this might, when it comes to the Antarctic, but this seems only an
> issue to an educated few.
>    Have a look at GRL. I think I recall a few papers in this with 
> supplementary
> material. The GRL formula that works out the size is a little odd. I have 
> been
> involved in a couple recently that have been 7pp. Looking at these, 
> (attached),
> I attribute this to having near full page diagrams!
>
>    I'd vote for GRL, as it will likely involve less work than going to J. 
> Climate.
> If it is then too big for GRL, JGR would do.
>
> Cheers
> Phil
>
>
> At 00:13 01/05/2008, Nathan Gillett wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Unfortunately Nature didn't go for our polar detection paper, so we've
>> got to decide where to send it now. We could try Science, though this
>> may yield a similar answer, GRL, as originally planned (this would
>> mean not including the figures in the supplementary material), or
>> perhaps J. Clim. Other suggestions/votes welcome. I'm out of the
>> office for the next couple of weeks, but I'll get back to this after
>> that...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Nathan
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From:  <Decisions@nature.com>
>> Date: 2008/4/29
>> Subject: Decision on Nature manuscript 2008-04-03762
>> To: n.gillett@uea.ac.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 29th April 2008
>>
>>  Dear Dr Gillett
>>
>>  Thank you for submitting your manuscript, "Attribution of polar
>> warming to human influence", for consideration. As you may know, in
>> deciding which papers to publish we have to make an editorial
>> judgement about the immediacy of interest for a general audience, the
>> degree of advance provided, and the like. In practice, this means that
>> we decline a substantial proportion of manuscripts without sending
>> them to referees, in cases where we feel that, even if referees were
>> to certify the manuscript as technically correct, there would not be a
>> strong case for publication in Nature, rather than a specialist
>> journal.
>>
>>  In the present case, we have no doubt that your analysis will be of
>> value to others seeking to quantify the anthropogenic influence in
>> records of polar temperature change, not only for the claim of a
>> detectable anthropogenic signal in Antarctica but also for the
>> methodology that you have adopted to achieve this. But I regret that
>> we are unable to conclude that the paper provides the sort of
>> conceptual advance in scientific understanding of the underlying
>> physical processes (and the magnitude thereof) that would warrant
>> publication in Nature rather than in a more specialised journal.
>> Having said this, we do appreciate the topicality of your findings and
>> if you would let us know when the paper has finally been accepted for
>> publication elsewhere, we could then explore the possibility of
>> highlighting these results elsewhere in the magazine.
>>
>>  I am sorry that we cannot respond more positively, and I hope that
>> you will understand that our decision in no way reflects any doubts
>> about the quality of the work reported. The unfortunate fact is that
>> we receive many more papers than we can undertake to publish, and we
>> must attempt to select those that will be of the greatest interest to
>> a wide audience. I hope that you will rapidly receive a more
>> favourable response elsewhere.
>>
>>  Yours sincerely
>>
>>  Karl Ziemelis
>>  Physical Sciences Editor, Nature
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>> --
>> ****************************************************************************
>> Dr. Nathan Gillett,
>> Climatic Research Unit,
>> School of Environmental Sciences.
>> University of East Anglia.
>> Email: n.gillett@uea.ac.uk
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