cc: a.minns@uea.ac.uk
date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:46:00 -0000
from: "Prof B.E. Launder" <brian.launder@umist.ac.uk>
subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Climate Change/ Environmental Issues
to: Mike Hulme <m.hulme@uea.ac.uk>

<x-rich>Mike:


To respond to your second-paragraph query, Mia began by asking 
for someone to go against Professor Stott but, I guess, picking up 
the vibes I put out in my last note to her, she has broadened her 
possible list of topics. Frankly, I wouldn't myself want to take a 
strongly 'anti' position on any of the power options whether it be 
nuclear or even fossil-fuel (because, in the latter case, carbon 
sequestration offers interesting prospects especially if bolted onto 
coal-fired power). So, I would have thought that the Tyndall Centre 
would have most to contribute (and to gain) from an articulate 
response to Professor Stott.


Brian




Date sent:      	Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:01:38 +0000

To:             	brian.launder@umist.ac.uk

From:           	Mike Hulme <<m.hulme@uea.ac.uk>

Subject:        	Re: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Climate Change/ Environmental Issues

Copies to:      	a.minns@uea.ac.uk


<FontFamily><param>Times New Roman</param><bigger>Brian,
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Yes, indeed, Professor Stott is known to me and I have had a 
couple of radio debates with him in the past. His expertise is 
biogeography, although he seems to have made a reputation for 
himself (amongst the media, not the scientists) in disputing the 
credibility of climate models

I will give this some thought and discuss with Asher; by the way, 
the last email from Mia seemed to be looking for an anti-fossil or 
an anti-nuclear speaker from Tyndall rather than someone to 
debate with Stott - or have I mis-read?

Mike
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At 17:41 18/02/03 +0000, you wrote:


<paraindent><param>left</param><color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Mike: 
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Here's a succession of emails exchanged between Mia 
Nybrant at 
</color>the Scientific Alliance (SA) and myself. While I've 
attached most of them, hopefully just her latest with this 
commentary will be sufficient for you to be able to 
respond. The SA is holding a 1-day discussion at the Royal 
Institution just a couple of weeks before our event. Though 
the underlying motivation for their event is somewhat 
similar to ours it is much broader in its coverage as it's a 
whole-day affair); I attach the outline programme that she 
sent up with her original email. 

Anyway, around her third email she asked if the Tyndall 
Centre could contribute a speaker. I quizzed her as to the 
role and as you will see from her latest message she wants 
to have someone to go head-to-head against Professor 
Stott, who I gather does not believe in global warming. It 
seems to me that what is best needed to counter his 
arguments would be a real expert in the science. Since that 
isn't really Tyndall North's area I thought I'd check with 
you whether anyone at UEA would seem just right. Simon 
(who is simply unavailable on May 6th) commented to me 
that Stott is a pretty tricky and slippery debater so one 
would want to be confident that Tyndall could go in with a 
fire-proof case. 
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I look forward to your thoughts, 

Brian 
<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>------- Forwarded message follows ------</color>
Dear Brian 
Many thanks. The opening session on "CO2 reduction 
policy" will focus on 
the observational science. We expect Professor Stott to 
outline some of the 
difficulties associated with the prediction of climate change 
including a 
discussion of data collection and computer modelling. We 
are looking for a 
counterpart speaker to present the case for confidence in 
climate change 
data and computer modelling. 
The later sessions on renewables, fossil fuels and nuclear 
will address the 
engineering strategies available to achieve CO2 emission 
reductions. We are 
still looking for speakers to present "The case against 
nuclear energy: risk 
vs. reward" and "The case against fossil fuels" and would 
be happy if the 
Tyndell Centre would prefer to put forward a speaker for 
one of these 
session in preference to "The science behind the policy of 
CO2 reduction". 
I look forward to hearing from you 
Kindest regards 
Mia 
----- Original Message ----- 
> Mia: 
> 
> I'm forwarding your invitation to some of my colleagues 
to invite 
> their input (to me) on who at the Tyndall Centre might 
best be able 
> to contribute to your meeting. The question of CO2 
reduction is 
> such a big field and it may be necessary to learn the 
angle or 
> specialty area of Professor Stott before deciding who 
would best 
> complement his talk. Is he concerned with the 
observational 
> science of CO2 growth and the environmental impacts; 
or is he into 
> the engineering/economic strategies for alleviating the 
problem? It 
> is this last aspect that Tyndall North is especially focused 
on. 
> 
> Brian Launder 
____________________________________________
_____ 
> > Dear Professor Launder 
> 
> > Thank you very much for forwarding the information to 
your 
communications 
> > officer and for providing publicity for our event. We 
will do our 
utmost to 
> > return the favour. I will send you copies of the 
brochure when it is 
ready, 
> > which will have the price and details of speakers etc on 
it (let's 
discuss 
> > nearer the time how many copies you would like). 
> > However, some of the speakers so far are Professor 
Phillip Stott, 
University 
> > of London, speaking in the session on CO2 Reduction 
Policy; Phillip 
Wolfe, 
> > Renewable Power Association speaking on 
Renewables; and Dr Nick Riley, 
> > British Geological Survey on Fossil Fuels. 
> > I would like to invite you, or appropriate colleague, to 
speak on the 
> > session on CO2 Reduction Policy and debate the issue 
with Professor 
Stott. 
> > This would include 15-20 minutes presentation followed 
directly by a 
short 
> > Q&A and a more general Panel Discussion at the end 
of the day. 
> > 
> > Please do not hesitate to call me on 020 7484 5094 or 
email me with any 
> > queries you may have. I look forward to hearing from 
you. 
> > 
> > Kindest regards 
> > 
> > Mia 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Prof B.E. Launder" 
<<brian.launder@umist.ac.uk> 
> > To: "Mia Nybrant" <<mianybrant@scientific-
alliance.org> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:21 AM 
> > Subject: Re: (Fwd) Climate Change/ Environmental 
Issues 
> > 
> > 
> > > Dear Ms Nybrant: 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for getting back in touch with me. I will 
forward your email 
> > > and its attachment to our communications officer 
requesting that 
> > > he should alert the Tyndall Community to your 1-day 
debate. I've 
> > > marked the date in my diary in the hope that I will be 
able to attend 
> > > myself. It would be good to know the names of 
speakers. Are 
> > > these nearly ready to be disclosed? Also, we would 
want to know 
> > > of any charges for participating in "Powering the 
UK's Future". With 
> > > this extra information we'll be happy to give your 
event all the 
> > > publicity we can. 
> > > 
> > > Best wishes, 
> > > 
> > > Brian Launder 
> > > 
> > > 
____________________________________________
___________ 
> > > > Dear Professor Launder 

> > > > Many thanks for your email and I am sorry for the 
slight delay in my 
> > > > response. We would be delighted to forward any 
information about 
your 
> > > > debate to our members, as well as posting the 
details on our 
website. 

> > > > We are organising a conference on 6 May at the 
Royal Institution 
> > entitled 
> > > > "2020 Vision -Powering the UK's Future". The 
aim is to outline the 
> > > > scientific arguments for and against a policy of 
CO2 reductions and, 
in 
> > the 
> > > > light of the Government's Energy White Paper, to 
discuss what role 
> > different 
> > > > forms of energy supply can contribute toward this 
goal. I have 
attached 
> > a 
> > > > draft outline of the conference for your information 
and I would be 
very 
> > > > interested to hear your comments on it. Please 
also let me know if 
you 
> > have 
> > > > any suggestions for speakers. 

> > <underline><color><param>0000,0000,FF00</param>http://www.scientific-
alliance.org/conference/conf_find_default.htm</

> > > > Kindest regards 
> > > > Mia Nybrant 
> > > > Development Director 
> > > > The Scientific Alliance 
> > > > Golden Cross House 
> > > > 8 Duncannon Street 
> > > > London WC2N 4JF 
> > > > Tel: 020 7484 5094 
> > > > Fax: 020 7484 5100 
> > > > <underline><color><param>0000,0000,FF00</param>www.scientific-alliance.org</underline></color> 
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Prof B. E. Launder, FRS, FREng
Regional Director, Tyndall North
Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research
UMIST, PO Box 88,
Manchester M60 1QD, UK

Tel: 44-(0)161-200-3701
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