cc: jwillebrand@ifm-geomar.de, Brian Hoskins <b.j.hoskins@reading.ac.uk>, Martin.Manning@noaa.gov, Susan Solomon <ssolomon@al.noaa.gov>, Matilde Rusticucci <mati@at.fcen.uba.ar>, Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>, Nathan Bindoff <n.bindoff@utas.edu.au>, zhenlin chen <cdccc@cma.gov.cn>, Melinda Marquis <Marquis@ucar.edu>
date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:49:18 -0700
from: Kevin Trenberth <trenbert@ucar.edu>
subject: Re: IPCC WG1 Observations ppt
to: Peter Lemke <Peter.Lemke@awi.de>

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Hi Peter
I am a bit alarmed about all of these slides as being too complex and 
not using material from the chapters enough.

For instance Fig 4.13 I found easy to understand but your first slide is 
not easy: why is Europe in blue going up in a and level in b when the 
glaciers are retreating?  The reason is because this shows the rate of 
change not the result of the change isn't it?

In your second slide I do like the Larsen B ice shelf picture and that 
provides a nice back drop for some explanation of the new bullet (which 
is good).  But why include the 3 panels on the left?  What do they add?

I am not sure the next two are needed especially in their current form.  
None of these are in the chapter.  They add too much new material.  In 
my last ppt version I added some place holders taking some figures from 
the chapter as they are part of the picture that "global warming is 
unequivocal".  I would urge you to include the first two I had, plus one 
of yours based on the Larsen B slide but with the message from the 
bullet added, or something like that.

Regards
Kevin




Peter Lemke wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> please find enclosed a ppt-file addressing issues of Chapter 4.
> Slide 1: addresses SPM-312 and 314. I suggest to accept 312. The 
> figure (4.15 from the chapter) indicates an increased rate of change 
> after about 1990. But I do not think that we have an indication of an 
> acceleration (continuously increasing rate of change).
> Slides 2,3 and 4: address the increased flow speed of tributary 
> glaciers after retreat/thinning/loss of ice shelves or floating 
> glacier tongues in Antarctica and Greenland (comments SPM-349 to 353)
>
> I did not find any critical comments concerning snow, sea ice and 
> frozen ground. Therefore I did not prepare any slides for theses topics.
> Best regards,
> Peter
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