date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:13:34 -0500
from: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@virginia.edu>
subject: Re: abstract for Clivar. Due soon!
to: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>

   Thanks Keith,
   Lets adds Tom C, Simon, Hans then, and also Gavin Schmidt and Drew Shindell since they've
   been doing quite a bit of relevant work in this area, and keep it there?
   Happy holidays to you too!
   Look forward to being in touch again soon,
   mike
   At 09:08 AM 12/11/2003 +0000, Keith Briffa wrote:

     All fine - I think the list is fine ( but perhaps add Tom C , and Simon Tett and Hans v
     S.) . Just in case you were wondering about the model simulations I intend to describe -
     these are primarily the Hadcm3 and ECH0-G runs that we have used in our SOAP project ,
     forced from 1500 with natural only and from 1750 with natural and anthro. I resume we
     will also include similar runs from Caspar and others . All the best and a good
     christmas
     Keith
     At 08:44 AM 12/10/03 -0500, you wrote:

     HI Keith,
     Thanks, changes and suggestions all very helpful.
     I've made two additional small changes--I didn't like "pseudo", so I've rephrased to
     express what I think (?) you meant there. I've eliminated a redundant statement about
     only anthro forcing
     can explain 20th century warming (was mentioned in two places), to bring under the 400
     word limit.
     I think I like your idea of including others (Ray, Malcolm, Phil, Tim, Scott)  as
     "collaborating authors" rather than adding to the primary author list (which is just you
     and me).
     Please let me know if you have any remaining comments, and I'll submit a final version
     once I hear back from you...
     thanks for getting back to me so quickly on this,
     mike
     At 12:44 PM 12/10/2003 +0000, Keith Briffa wrote:

     Mike
     I have edited and reformatted the abstract quite a bit , so you had better check it
     thoroughly again. Please note that  have no real objection to Phil being a co author -
     other than a possible lack of balance with two CRU people. This would be helped
     considerably if we considered one more author ( Ray Bradley) perhaps.  What do you
     think? Anyway, I am happy with the abstract now. We could include a whole group of
     "collaborating authors " (as in IPCC reports) to acknowledge the input "the usual
     subjects" will undoubtedly make. Cheers
     Keith
     At 12:36 PM 12/9/03 -0500, you wrote:

     Hi Keith,
     I hope all is well.
     Deadline for submitting our CLIVAR abstract vastly approaches, so I've taken the liberty
     of drafting an abstract, which I've attached in word format. Truth be told, I've
     borrowed liberally from some other recent abstracts, including ones that Phil and I
     wrote jointly--I vote we make Phil a co-author on the abstract for this reason, among
     others--is that ok w/ you?
     Please let me know if you have any comments, and feel free to edit and send me a revised
     version. Its presently exactly at the 400 word limit, so we can't lengthen, but we can
     remove. I need to submit this electronically by Friday, because I'll be travelling and
     away from my email through after the deadline after then. If I don't hear from you by
     Friday, I'll submit as is, w/ our three names on it...
     thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide,
     mike
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     ______________________________________________________________
                         Professor Michael E. Mann
                Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall
                           University of Virginia
                          Charlottesville, VA 22903
     _______________________________________________________________________
     e-mail: mann@virginia.edu   Phone: (434) 924-7770   FAX: (434) 982-2137
              [3]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

     --
     Professor Keith Briffa,
     Climatic Research Unit
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
     Phone: +44-1603-593909
     Fax: +44-1603-507784
     [4]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

   ______________________________________________________________
                       Professor Michael E. Mann
              Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall
                         University of Virginia
                        Charlottesville, VA 22903
   _______________________________________________________________________
   e-mail: mann@virginia.edu   Phone: (434) 924-7770   FAX: (434) 982-2137
            [5]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

