date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:10:41 +0100
from: "Naomi Law" <naomi.law@bbc.co.uk>
subject: RE: Names and a few articles
to: "Phil Jones" <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

   Thank you very much for this - and for talking to me earlier.  It is good to have made
   contact with you and the CRU.

   I haven't fully digested everything here yet but am looking forward to doing so.  Is it ok
   if I keep your contact details in our records so that, if appropriate, either I or my
   colleagues can get in touch again at a later stage of the research process?



   Thanks again and best wishes,

   Naomi
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   From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
   Sent: 22 July 2008 10:57
   To: Naomi Law
   Subject: Names and a few articles

    Naomi,
       These names will just be starting points.
    Peru/Ecuador and the impacts of El Nino
    on civilizations across South America -
   Ricardo Garca Herrera
   Dto. Fsica de la Tierra II
   Facultad de CC Fsicas
   Universidad Complutense
   Ciudad Universitaria s/n
   28040 Madrid
   Spain
   tel (34)913944490
   fax (34) 913944635
   rgarciah@fis.ucm.es
    Polynesia - luc.ortlieb@bondy.ird.fr
   Luc ORTLIEB, Directeur de l'UR 055 "PALEOTROPIQUE"
   Paloenvironnements tropicaux et variabilit climatique
   Institut de Recherche pour le Dveloppement (IRD)
   32 avenue Henri-Varagnat, F-93143 Bondy Cedex, France
   Tel. : (33) / (0)148025592,  [1]mailto:Luc.Ortlieb@ird.fr
   Assistante: Nathalie Teinturier [2]mailto:Nathalie.Teinturier@ird.fr
   Tel.: (33) / (0)148025637 ; Fax: (33) / (0)148025554
   Greenland Ice Dating
    Bo Vinther <bo@gfy.ku.dk>
    I don't have an email tail for him.
    I have attached a paper about AD 536
    Bo also has a paper on the near exact dates of the Younger Dryas
    events about 11,000 years ago and two other more recent events 8.2
    and 4.3 K years ago.
    In dating these ice cores Bo has also been dragged into the date of
    the Thera eruption (16th century BC) which led to the ending of the
    Minoan civilization. There have been programmes before on this, so
    I'd avoid this one. Dating of the event (to an exact year) has great implications
    for the dates of pharoahs in Egypt - and also the parting of the Red Sea.
    For background on this I'd take to Sturt Manning who is based at
    Cornell University in New York State.
    and finally Ireland
    paper attached about the event in 1740. The book Arctic Ireland is by Dickson (1997).
    Also attached a recent paper of mine - which is a review of documentary data
    and some of the myths about these sorts of data that prevail. This relates
    to the freezing of Thames in London (and why this doesn't happen now),
    vine growing in England and the Norse in Greenland.
    Climatically events may be one offs or a protracted cool/warm or wet/dry period.
    It is likely that effects wrt civilizations would likely come from the protracted
    events, except where a one off could induce a major cataclysm such as flood
    (inland and/or tidal), or a complete crop failure.
     I'm away on holiday all next week.
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 18:06 21/07/2008, you wrote:

     Hi Phil,
     That would be fine.  I'll call as close to 9am as possible.
     Best wishes,
     Naomi
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   Prof. Phil Jones
   Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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