date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:46:48 -0000
from: "Thorne, Peter (Climate Research)" <peter.thorne@metoffice.gov.uk>
subject: RE: Parliamentary debate and temperature data
to: "Phil Jones" <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>

Ah. No decision has been made and now we are worried we are in warm
water over it from a misleading parliment perspective. At least it'll
speed a decision up one way or another. 


-- 
Peter Thorne, Climate Research scientist
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk] 
Sent: 06 November 2009 13:46
To: Thorne, Peter (Climate Research)
Subject: Fwd: Parliamentary debate and temperature data


Peter,
    I take it this response in the House means that the emails will go
out fairly soon?!

  I was asked about this question by someone at DECC on Tuesday and I
sent a reply which basically said what Joan Ruddock said. The question
did mention UEA as well as MOHC - or whatever Lilley called you.

   Have a look at this link

http://www.uea.ac.uk/hr/jobs/acad/atr841.htm

  Several of us have been at a meeting about these posts with
Jacqui/Alastair. Although the Tyndall posts are vague, it could be worth
you while talking to Neil Adger. "Neil Adger" 
<n.adger@uea.ac.uk>. These 3 posts are nothing to do with ENV - the
money comes from UEA. It is all very odd. Ian Renfrew was at the meeting
and he and Jacqui felt that if someone with a hard science background
applied they would definitely be considered. Another person to discuss
these with could be Trevor. "Davies Trevor Prof (ENV)"
<T.D.Davies@uea.ac.uk>

  ENV's top priority for a replacement is in Nathan's area.

  It just depends on how pushy you want to be. They do want good
scientists who will be able to carve out research teams in a few years.

   The 3 Tyndall posts will be based in the CRU Building - that was
agreed at the meeting.

  Cheers
  Phil





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>John, Peter, Phil and Dorothy,
>
>Regarding claims of refusal to release station data used in near 
>surface temperature records.
>Peter Thorne suggested I should let you know about a question made in 
>parliament yesterday during the Copenhagen/climate debate and the 
>response by  the Minister of State,  Department of Energy and Climate 
>Change - Joan Ruddock.
>
>http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm091105/deb
>text/91105-0014.htm
>Column 1052
>Peter Lilley :-
>"I hope that the Minister will tell us what is happening about the Met 
>Office Hadley centre's refusal to publish the basic figures it has 
>received from around the world that it uses to calculate its estimates 
>of the rise in surface temperatures throughout the world."
>
>http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm091105/deb
>text/91105-0020.htm
>Column 1090
>Joan Ruddock :-
>"The right hon. Gentleman stated that the Met Office had not made data 
>available, and we have taken steps to try to make that happen.
>The Met Office has written to all those who provided data to ask 
>whether they will agree to release those data."
>
>
>Peter suggested that Ruddock may not have been quite right in her
statement.
>
>Gareth
>p.s. I heard the debate and am pretty sure that Lilley said 
>"Meteorological office Hadley institute" not "Met Office Hadley
centre".
>
>
>  --
>Dr Gareth S. Jones    Climate Research Scientist
>Met Office Hadley Centre, FitzRoy Road, Exeter EX1 3PB, UK
>Tel: +44(0)1392 886903 email:gareth.s.jones@metoffice.gov.uk

Prof. Phil Jones
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School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
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