cc: <manton@bom.gov.au>,<Thomas.C.Peterson@noaa.gov>
date: Fri Mar 11 15:23:47 2005
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: AOPC-XI: 2nd Mailing
to: "Hans Teunissen" <HTeunissen@wmo.int>

    Hans,
      Fine re the Mon Repos.
     Been emailing Dick re AGG.  He asked for the big issues we should cope with re the
    GSN and GUAN.  I said Africa. Now he's complaining that this is 80 countries. We have
    to start somewhere though, which is what I've told him. We also have to get Brazil
   to do more. They have apparently told Dick to leave them alone. Maybe Carolina Vera
    can be some help here?
     There is a workshop on making CLIMATs in Cairo relatively soon - Karpov is
    organising it. Dick should go to this if poss. Also we should send this group
    our recommendation re how to calculate CLIMATs, just to be sure they are not
    recommending countries do something new or different from what they always
    did. Geting a better absolute mean is one thing, but it will likely screw up
    the homogeneity of the long series.
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 13:46 11/03/2005, Hans Teunissen wrote:

     Thanks for the feedback/update, Phil. Re Item 6.7, that's the issue of whether to
     determine mean monthlies from max-plus-min-over-2 or from averages of hourly values. It
     was driven by the query from Malta, you may recall, and a certain Phil Jones volunteered
     Jones and Peterson to talk about it at AOPC (I've just forwarded you some background
     info I have). Idea is to get CCl onside, I think. I have some other bumff on this, but
     not in an easily-sendable form. I'll have it at the meeting of course. Maybe we should
     also try to get some CCl-types there for that (besides Tom, of course!) - I'll check
     with WCP here.

     Glad you'll be at the dinner - a bit of a tradition now, I guess. We had considered
     moving it elsewhere, just for a change, but that would complicate the transportation
     (unless we book at La Perle du Lac, for example, but that would probably blow the week's
     per diem!). People are scattered at various hotels, including the Mon Repos. Going for
     dinner after the session here means it''s easy to at least get to dinner, and the trip
     to hotel would have to be done anyway.

     A bientot,

     Hans.



     >>> Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk> 11.03.05 14:20:24 >>>
      Hans,
         I'm in contact with Dick about AGG matters. We're trying to come up with
      priorities for the next year. Thanks for giving the AGG sufficient time in the current
      agenda.
         As for the rest of the agenda, I can talk a little about paleo (say 20 mins). Also
      some things on the Reanalysis in area 10. Glad you've got David Parker talking
      about the Surface Pressure WG. I can chip in there if needed. Also I may be able
      to say something more on the vertical temperature trends as I'm on the NRC review
      of this CCSP report.
         Consolidation of the GSN will come from the AGG report back. Not sure what you
      mean by mean monthly statistics in 6.7. Hopefully Tom P does.
         OK for the dinner at the Mon Repos. I don't think we're staying there - see Natasha
      as to where we are, but still OK. I just thought you might want to consider somewhere
      else nearer to our hotels. If I recall correctly I'm at the Edelweiss in town.
        I'm in Bologna the week before, so can't pick up any files after April 5.
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 14:17 09/03/2005, you wrote:

     Dear All:

     Attached please find an update of the Provisional Agenda for the AOPC-XI session next
     month in Geneva. This is based on the Agenda Outline distributed in January, taking into
     account suggested modifcations and giving more detail re the anticipated timing of the
     meeting. We have also assigned document numbers where we think appropriate, and would
     ask that participants review this assignment carefully for any needed modifcations,
     additions or deletions (silence means you will provide the document indicated for your
     item!). Documents will be posted on the AOPC-XI Web site
     ([1]http://www.wmo.ch/web/gcos/aopcXI) which we'll activate next week. I have also
     attached another copy of the Action Items status list to remind everyone of ongoing
     and/or expected activities. Please send any corrections to the agenda back to me (and
     Mike) as soon as possible, and we can make appropriate adjustments in the next version.

     As usual, we have planned an informal group dinner (self-funded) at the Mon Repos for
     the Tuesday evening (see Agenda). You might wish to let us know if you'll be available
     to attend that dinner; we'll finalize just before then, as usual.

     We look forward to seeing everyone next month in Geneva for a productive and enjoyable
     meeting.

     Best regards,

     Hans Teunissen.

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   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
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