date: Fri Oct 15 12:07:01 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Fwd: Re: our IJC manuscript
to: d.lister@uea.ac.uk

    David,
      FYI -see the paras from Anders about Alexander.
    Phil

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     Phil,
     I think sometime in the second half of November is realistic.
     By the way, Alexander and I have had some more struggle with the emulate database. It is
     constantly increasing in number of stations. We have now also included all ECA series
     and will put these under a separate file directory for internal use. This would be
     convenient for anyone in emulate who wishes to make analyses also for shorter periods
     and with better geographical spread of stations.
     Alex is also certainly going to be on board on Emulate during year 3 - but in Gteborg
     rather than in Wurzburg. Just heard from him today that he and his family will move to
     Sweden in February. He will work for Deliang and start his PhD studies there.
     Have a good time in Firenze. Coincidentially, my wife Birgitta will be at a meeting in
     Bologna the same week. However, the weather seems not to be very hot there at the
     moment, so don't only bring the shorts you had in Tarragona ;-)
     Cheers,
     Anders
     At 08:39 2004-10-15 +0100, you wrote:

      Anders,
         Fine, re colour. I have a new DoE grant now, so will pay from that. When you
     eventually send
      the paper back ask for a quote for the number of colour pages we might need. Hopefully
      less than about 1000 pounds.
        I'm off to Seattle tomorrow for a US DoE meeting for 3 days, then a week's holiday in
      Firenze - only have to give a talk to the MICE meeting there one day. Ruth and I
     looking
      forward to it.
        So, if you get a revised version of the paper to me sometime after Nov 1 that would
     be best.
      Cheers
      Phil
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 07:46 15/10/2004, you wrote:

     Phil,
     Sure, I agree with your suggestions! And, yes, we should use colour. I think you have
     told me some time that you could pay ;-)
     Cheers,
     Anders
     At 15:10 2004-10-14 +0100, you wrote:

      Anders,
        Thanks for replying to Aad so thoroughly whilst I've been away !
      As for the comments, I was reading some responses Marie had made to two special
      issue papers from the SWURVE project. She did a good job of dismissing the reviewer's
      comments in a response to the editor and only ended up making a few changes to the
      manuscript.  I say this as I suggest you follow the same route here. I think if you
     sent
      back a revised paper taking into account some/most of B's comments and just point
      out to Glenn (politely) that A doesn't know what they are talking about !  A's minor
     points
      are OK - are we going to use colour?
        Basically though A is living in another world. He/she has no idea because
         - just thinks the daily series are sitting out there (you could mention a little
     more about
           getting access to the series. It is partly a lack of digitised series and also
     national
           policies re availability).  EMULATE will help, but there is so much more that
     could be done.
         - our paper title is roughly what we will call the section in IPCC report !  Globe
     instead of
          Europe.  That will have no focus on the means, just the extremes.   The current
     study is
         about extremes. There have been countless ones about the mean !  You could mention
          that a few studies have tried to link extremes to changes in the mean and
     variability, but this
      is  really difficult because the quality and quantity of the data are not really up to
     it.  The studies
         quoted have only looked at a couple of locations and used mainly model output.
         Hope you're in agreement with this.
      Cheers
      Phil
     At 15:27 11/10/2004, you wrote:

     Here is the deleted message:
     Phil,
     Just got the review of our extremes trend paper. It was posted on 22 Sep, s ito took
     long time from Britain to Sweden. I have posted photocopies of the review to you. Hope
     the return journey is much faster!
     In summary:
     Rev A found the study useful and careful, but wanted us to focus on EITHER precip OR
     temp, but on BOTH means AND extremes (ultimately leading to TWO papers). This would
     require lots of work, and I don't want to do this. Will have to argue against this -
     possibly by telling the editor that much more will be done in EMULATE. Rev A was also
     disappointed by the bad data coverage, e.g. no Iberian data. (EMULATE will help here...)
     Rev B had a number of points where he wanted us to deepen the discussion, but overall he
     thought the paper was GOOD. He also implicitly revealed himself as being Scandinavian
     and most likely he is Heikki Tuomenvirta.
     Tell me what you think when you have seen the review.
     Cheers,
     Anders

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     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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   Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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