date: Fri Feb  4 16:32:17 2005
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Journalist Daniel Glick's inquiry
to: <djayglick@earthlink.net>

    Dan,
       I will unfortunately be on travel for much of the rest of the month.
    I  have Feb 6-10 in Madrid, 12-20 in Pune, India and 22-25 in Chicago.
    So I don't have the time. Whether I have the heart and stomach is
    another matter. I think I would have.  I am a convening lead author
    on the next IPCC report, so it would be good to keep in touch. I would
    appreciate a copy of your finished article for Audobon.
      Mike Mann's work is of particular interest to me. I don't think it
    is far from what really happened. We'll never know for sure - our
    grandchildren will have a lot more proxy records. Mike's probably
    told you about the web site he and others have set up to
    respond to a lot of the hype [1]http://www.realclimate.org/ . Mike keeps
    trying to get me write some things for this, but there is no enough
    time in the day. A lot of interest has been generated by it, but I doubt
    it will convince the Crichton's of this world. Why he has embarked
    on this crusade is anybody's guess. All I can say is that he is getting
    bad advice.
       You might be aware that some new twists on the records for the last
    1000 years will appear soon. There is a paper in Nature (Feb8/9 issue)
    with a new 2000 year series. It has greater amplitude than Mike Mann's,
    but still has the recent period as the warmest. Another paper will appear
    in GRL by two skeptics (McIntyre and McKittrick). This claims to have
    found a mistake in Mike's method. Their new curve has the warmest century
    by far in the 15th century. None of the 6-7 curves of the last millennium
    have the 15th century as warm - it is probably the 4th coldest. So they
    have made a much bigger mistake than Mike - even if he made one at all !
      Both paper would be worth your reading - and they both should make a
    splash. The one thing the skeptics can achieve is a lot of publicity.
    Unfortunately sowing doubts sometimes bears fruit.
       I'll be around in March, so if you've not finished and want some input then,
    then email me again.
      Apologies again !
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 14:42 04/02/2005, you wrote:

     Dear Dr. Jones,
         We corresponded last year while I was researching a cover story for National
     Geographic magazine on climate change (it appeared in the September 2004 issue).  I have
     another somewhat less august task at hand, and was hoping you might be able to help.
         I don't know if you have caught wind of a bestselling novel written by Michael
     Crichton (Jurassic Park, Andromeda Strain), which has generated some controversy here
     because of its misrepresentation of climate change science, among other things.  I have
     been asked by Audubon magazine to write about l'affaire Crichton, not simply because his
     book will likely sell orders of magnitudes more copies than the top ten non-fiction
     books on climate change, but also because he is making it something of a crusade to make
     public talks denouncing climate change research -- and researchers.  One target in
     public talks (and in the book) has been Michael Mann's work, which I imagine might be of
     particular interest to you.
         I also imagine that debating a fiction writer about climate change science may seem
     to be a particularly futile endeavor.  But if you have the heart and stomach for it, I
     would welcome your comments.
         If you are unaware of the particulars, I can send you specific references and
     questions for you.  If you are au courant, then please feel free to comment.  With your
     permission, I would appreciate the opportunity to quote from your email in my article.
     If there are others whom you think I should also contact, I am all ears.
         Warm regards,
         Daniel Glick

     Daniel Glick
     303 543-9086
     3590 Nyland Way
     Lafayette, Colorado 80026
     daniel@danielglick.net
     [2]www.danielglick.net

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Phil Jones [[3]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
          Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:32 AM
          To: Dan Glick
          Subject: Re: National Geographic inquiry
           Dear Dan,
              I am off home in the next few minutes, but if you send something I'll try and
          have
           a look over the next few days. Let me know how soon you want comments back.
           Cheers
           Phil
          At 10:03 14/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:

          Dr. Jones,
              I was wondering if you might be willing and able to take a look at the section
          of my draft article on climate change that includes a mention of your work.  I am
          anxious to be as accurate as I can possibly be.
              Thanks, Dan Glick

          Daniel Glick
          3590 Nyland Way
          Lafayette, CO  80026
          [4]daniel@danielglick.net
          [5]http://www.danielglick.net

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: [6]Phil Jones
                To: [7]Dan Glick
                Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:21 AM
                Subject: Re: National Geographic inquiry
                 Dear Dan,
                    I will be able to talk to you. I will be away Sept 23-24 and most of
                October at meetings, so
                 if you can get hold of me before the end of September. My direct line is in
                the email tail.
                    You will obviously get an array of answers to your questions from
                different people. Another
                 person to talk to would be Ray Bradley (at UMASS, Amherst) and Tom Wigley (at
                NCAR).
                 It would seem easier to answer your questions on the phone and then perhaps
                elaborate
                 over email on specific. The paleo data, for example, are just extensions of
                instrumental
                 records. The latter are used for the detail of patterns of changes and for
                linking to possible
                 causal factors. Paleo data allow us to place the recent past in a longer
                context.
                    I'm writing a longer piece with Mike Mann, which would be useful for you
                to read, but it's
                 not in a form yet we can send out. We will be going into some of the same
                issues, but our
                 readerships will be different. Paper will be for Reviews of Geophysics (RoG).
                    A couple of things for you to look at - or think about.
                 1. I had a paper in RoG in 1999.
                Jones, P.D., New, M., Parker, D.E., Martin, S. and Rigor, I.G., 1999:  Surface
                air temperature and its variations over the last 150 years.  Reviews of
                Geophysics 37, 173-199.
                 2.  Ray Bradley's book in 1999 on Paleoclimatology.  Ray's email is
                rbradley@geo.umass.edu
                 3. I'll forward you an email about some paleo work that has come out over the
                last few months
                 that has generated a lot of controversy.  I just want to make you aware of
                the issues and
                 some people's agendas and sensitivities.
                 Cheers
                 Phil
                At 13:50 04/09/2003 -0600, you wrote:

                Dear Professor Jones,
                    I am an American journalist working on a article for National Geographic
                Magazine about observed changes in the earth and its physical processes.  An
                integral part of my story will be to explore two simple (and sometimes
                evasive) questions:  What do we know about how the planet is changing; and How
                do we know what we know?  I would like very much if you might be willing to
                help me address these two questions with reference to global temperatures.
                    With high hopes that you might help me understand and disseminate this
                information to a broad, lay audience, I make the following requests:  For
                starters, I would appreciate it if you would assign me some homework.  (I have
                in hand your recent paper in Geophysical Research Letters, as well as your
                Science article of April 27, 2001.)  One thing I am interested in is tracing a
                brief evolution of climate research itself:  Who, for example, is credited
                with first seeing data sets that indicated unusual warming patterns?  What
                were some of the difficult methodological issues that had to be confronted
                when assessing the data?  How did people go about reconciling different data
                sets, then calibrating them to become meaningful on a global scale?  How did
                the science of proxy measurements begin to gain scientific credibility?  What
                were some of the famous, or infamous, bumps in the scientific road?
                    I realize this is a vast topic, and frankly it is only one part of my
                upcoming article about physical change.  But I see it as the platform that
                helps make sense of other observed changes, like glacier melt and sea level
                rise.  Obviously the contention that 20th century temperatures are anomalously
                high is one of the foundations of other global climate changes.
                    Forgive this long-winded email.  Would you would be willing to point me in
                the direction of some good reading on the subject, and then be gracious enough
                to consent to an interview?  We could talk by telephone at your convenience (I
                am on travel for most of the next two weeks, but will be available
                afterwards), or conduct a series of email "conversations."  If you are unable
                to help me, or even if you are, would you be kind enough to suggest other
                scientists who might be able to speak to the questions I pose here?
                    Thank you for your time.
                    Regards,
                    Dan

                Daniel Glick
                3590 Nyland Way
                Lafayette, CO  80026
                [8]daniel@danielglick.net
                [9]http://www.danielglick.net
                Prof. Phil Jones
                Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
                School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
                University of East Anglia
                Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
                NR4 7TJ
                UK

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          Prof. Phil Jones
          Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
          School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
          University of East Anglia
          Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
          NR4 7TJ
          UK
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     Prof. Phil Jones
     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
     NR4 7TJ
     UK
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