cc: Tom Wigley <wigley@ucar.edu>
date: Thu Jun  5 16:35:17 2008
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Some items of news!
to: santer1@llnl.gov

    Ben,
      I'd not read the copy I printed out yesterday. I just saw Houghton's picture.

    Getting these FOI requests over the last couple of years has made me realize
    more what you went through and Mike Mann. I was aware, but when you get the
    emails yourself it hits home that little bit harder.
    Pachauri won't bother with these sorts of things. Susan offered John Mitchell
    some advice, but that was all. She did get tough with McIntyre when he began
    requesting in press/submitted papers that were referred to in AR4 drafts - saying
    he couldn't do an adequate review without seeing them. He stopped once she
    threatened to remove him from the reviewer's list.
    Holland is a retired engineer, and he sends numerous letters and emails to
    DEFRA and MOHC and the Minister and his local MP. Attached is the sort
    of missive he sent to the Garnaut review (an Australian review similar to the Stern
    Report). No need to read this - you will get the flavour fairly quickly. The
    unfortunate thing about all this is that they keep peddling the same sort of
    thing that a few gullible people get taken in.
    Keenan - the guy who accused Wei Chyung Wang of fraud doesn't yet seem
    to know that SUNY have exonerated WCW. SUNY may not have told him yet.
    I doubt he will take his web page down when he hears.
    A lot of people seem to think that because you've been accused of something,
    there must be something to warrant the accusation. Very few , including many
    climate scientists seem to understand the amount of mischief making out there
    - as we all know all too clearly.
    Cheers
    Phil
   At 16:05 05/06/2008, Ben Santer wrote:

     Dear Phil,
     In the "ENDS" piece about John Houghton, I saw that he was praised for defending the
     IPCC against allegations of "scientific cleansing". That's a nice bit of revisionist
     history. Actually, the IPCC did relatively little to defend me. Tom and I did nost of
     the defending...
     Best regards,
     Ben
     Phil Jones wrote:

      Tom, Ben,

           Jean's email is "Palutikof, Jean" <jean.palutikof@metoffice.gov.uk>
       There is also another piece of news
      [1]http://www.endsreport.com/index.cfm?action=information.birthday
      on p29.   You will need to download the whole pdf to get p29.
      CRU/UEA is just above Tesco!
      There are other pieces about Bob Watson, John Houghton, Met Office and others.
      An annoying email from yesterday is attached!
      We will likely be replying in a similar vein to our earlier, saying emails
      between CLAs and LAs for Ch 6 were in confidence. We have emails
      from all in Ch 6 to say the group doesn't want emails made available.
      We will refer Holland to WG1 in Boulder - knowing that there is likely
      only one person there keeping things ticking over till the TSU closes -
      which it may have.
      IPCC will have to alter those work guidelines to stop this sort of thing
      next time. I'll be raising it with whoever is the next Susan. Decision
      in early Sept - news is it will be one of Tom Karl, Ram, Brian Hoskins
      or Thomas Stocker.
      What will amuse is the paragraph about structured archiving. As you both
      know Keith and me work on the sedimentary sequence approach to filing!
      Cheers
      Phil
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   School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
   University of East Anglia
   Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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