date: Mon Sep  6 15:27:56 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: RE: GLOBAL OR NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TEMPERATURES IN HOLOCENE
to: "Folland, Chris" <chris.folland@metoffice.com>

    Chris,
      It is !  When you have a long train/plane journey !  Bellamy should read it on his way
   home -
    better before he arrives !
      Is talking to him an HC initiative? ENV here at UEA is trying to get him to come at some
   stage
    wrt wind turbines, which he's dead against. He may have a point re their cost etc, but
   he's shooting
    himself in the foot going for the science. He just ends up showing how little he knows.

    Cheers
    Phil
    PS I'll bring some hard copy reprints to Tarragona
   At 15:15 06/09/2004, you wrote:

     Phil

     Thanks very much. Your review paper looks well worth a read!

     Chris


     Professor Chris Folland
     Head of Climate Variability Research
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     Met Office, Hadley Centre, Fitzroy Rd, Exeter, Devon  EX1 3PB United Kingdom
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     Tel: +44 (0)1392 886646
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          -----Original Message-----
          From: Phil Jones [[2]mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
          Sent: 06 September 2004 14:18
          To: Folland, Chris
          Subject: Re: GLOBAL OR NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TEMPERATURES IN HOLOCENE
           Chris,
               Paleo reconstructions is just to AD 200. What we have said is that the late
          20th century
           is the warmest period in the last 2000 years, so stretching it a bit back to AD 1.
          Late 20th
           century is a bit loose, but I take it to be the 1980s and 1990s.  I'm attaching a
          paper from
           Reviews of Geophysics. Maybe you can persuade David Bellamy to read it ! Maybe you
          won't
           get a word in edgeways ! I hope he listens. When I've heard him on the radio/TV and
          seen his
           rantings in the Daily Mail, he goes on about the hockey stick - says it's defunct
          and the main
           protagonists have withdrawn it. He thinks I'm one of these, but I'm not. He just
          parrots what
           some of the skeptic web sites in the US say. Tell him he should read the real
          peer-review
           climate literature ! Also attaching the GRL paper with the AD 200 series in.
             Good luck !  Let me know how you get on - Tarragona will do !
           Phil
           PS I reckon that you would have to go back to about 3500BC to find a warmer period.
          So many
           of the very long series are poorly dated (decadal or less resolution), regionally
          biased and
           also very summer dependent.
          At 13:11 06/09/2004, you wrote:

          Phil
          Am I correct in stating that there is no such global or NH reconstruction
          (especially with error bars) before 200AD? Geff Jenkins thinks you have published a
          statement saying the 1990s were the warmest decade in the last 10000 years. So he
          may think there is a curve back to 8000BC. I am not aware of this but might have
          missed it.  We expect to entertain David Bellamy on Thursday, hence the concerns.
          Thanks
          Chris
          Professor Chris Folland
          Head of Climate Variability Research
          NOTE NEW EMAIL AND WEB ADDRESS
          Met Office, Hadley Centre, Fitzroy Rd, Exeter, Devon  EX1 3PB United Kingdom
          Email: chris.folland@metoffice.gov.uk
          Tel: +44 (0)1392 886646
          Fax: (in UK)  0870 900 5050
                  (International) +44 (0)113 336 1072)<[3]http://www.metoffice.gov.uk
          Also: Hon. Professor of Dept of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
          Prof. Phil Jones
          Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
          School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
          University of East Anglia
          Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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     Prof. Phil Jones
     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    p.jones@uea.ac.uk
     NR4 7TJ
     UK
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