cc: rbradley@geo.umass.edu, "Stott, Peter" <peter.stott@metoffice.com>, Stefan Rahmstorf <rahmstorf@pik-potsdam.de>
date: Wed Jul 21 10:32:46 2004
from: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
subject: Re: Fwd: The Dnouement Is Imminent
to: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@virginia.edu>, schlesin@atmos.uiuc.edu

    Mike, Mike et al.,
         Thanks for responding and forwarding. I suspect it will just go in one ear and out
    the other. In the 'Mounting Doubts' section, the text is lifted from that piece by
    Legates (which I responded to a week ago) and also a piece in the Daily Mail
    by David Bellamy (who is well described as a conservationalist and TV presenter). See
   below
    for what he is professor of. He left academia ages ago. In this Bellamy claimed that if
   you
    took all the water vapour out of the atmosphere the temperature would fall 33 deg C. If
   all
    the CO2 were taken out it would fall 0.3%. I have his units right !
        Is there a universal web site, where all this rubbish gets put? So, when Bellamy
   writes
    something, he can just go and parrot what other people have said.
       I suspect the various drafts of the IPCC chapters will get 'scientists' and
   'governments'
    parroting the same material. They will also resurface when AR4 comes out, but as long
    as everything is documented we will be in good shape.
      Keith Briffa heard Bellamy on the radio saying the same thing that 5 research groups had
    discredited the hockey stick. Bellamy is doing this as he's against wind farms - says they
    destroy habitats ! Says we should be putting the money to better use by conserving the
    environment and developing alternative energy sources !  Also says we should be fighting
    world hunger and providing clean drinking water.
    Cheers
    Phil
    Bellamy is an Honorary Professor of Adult and Continuing Education at the University of
   Durham and Special Professor of Botany and Nottingham University.


   At 16:05 20/07/2004 -0400, Michael E. Mann wrote:

     Thanks for forwarding this Mike,
     I've forwarded to a few other colleagues who may be interested. As you probably know,
     "TechCentralStation" isn't a legitimate news site--its an industry-funded front group,
     which gets most of its money from Exxon Mobile, etc. So in general I don't respond to
     this sort of stuff. But sometimes it useful that someone do, and I'm glad to see you
     have...
     Thanks again,
     Mike

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