date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:18:38 +0100
from: Olive Heffernan <heffernan.olive@googlemail.com>
subject: Re: Piece for CRU web site
to: "P.Jones@uea.ac.uk" <P.Jones@uea.ac.uk>

Hi Phil,

Ok, thanks for clarifying that. When will the url to the agreements go online?

Best
Olive

On 09/08/2009, P.Jones@uea.ac.uk <P.Jones@uea.ac.uk> wrote:
>  Olive,
>   I did send some of the data to a person working
>  with Peter Webster at Georgia Tech. The email wasn't to
>  PW, but he was in the CC list. I don't know how
>  McIntyre found out, but I thought this was a personal
>  email. This was one of the first times I'd sent
>  some data to a fellow scientist who wasn't at the
>  Hadley Centre. As I said I have taken pity on African
>  and Asian PhD students who wanted some temperature and precipitation
>  data for their country. The email has only gotten me grief,
>  so this is another reason for being much less helpful to
>  people emailing CRU. This goes against my nature, but
>  I've been driven to it. You'd better not say this, otherwise
>  McIntyre will request the emails where to prove I've been
>  unhelpful!
>
>   I should have just said to the GA person - use GHCN, like I do to
>  everyone else.
>
>     I also don't see why I should help people, I don't want to work
>  with and who spend most of their time critisising me.
>
>  Years ago I did send much paleo data to McIntyre but have also
>  had nothing but criticism on his blog ever since. As I said,
>  this criticism on blog sites is not the way to do science.
>  If they want to engage, they have to converse in civil tones,
>  and if people don't want to work with them, they have to respect
>  that and live with it.
>
>  Cheers
>  Phil
>
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > Thanks so much for that. I have one other question: McIntyre claims
> > that you sent data to Peter Webstre at Georgia Tech, but that you
> > would not supply him with the same data. Is that true, and if so, what
> > was the reasoning?
> >
> > Best,
> > Olive
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/08/2009, Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>  Here it is. There will be a link to the agreements - which are
> >> attached.
> >>  Files won't go up with these names. You should recognize one of these
> >>  - the data agreement between the Met Office and NERC.
> >>
> >>  Met Services appear want to be able to sell data commercially.
> >>  As I said some has more value than other types of data. Most
> >>  put in clauses separating academic from commercial use.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>  Phil
> >>
> >>
> >> Prof. Phil Jones
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